Bleed not working right

[judahkim]

I can only turn the bleed off in the tracker section and not the mixer section.  I’ve turned all the buttons off pertaining to bleed in the mixer and all the bleed levels down for every drum in the mixer but it doesnt change anything.  However, it works in the tracker window. Is there a setting I overlooked?  Has anyone faced this issue?

Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)

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[Henrik Ekblom]

In the tracker there’s a bleed setting, that tries to remove any bleed between audio files to better track the individual hits.

That’s a different thing than going to the mixer and reducing bleed – which changes how the drum kit (and it’s samples) sound.

E.g in the mixer you can’t reduce any bleed from audio files (that’s placed in the tracker). Have I understood your problem correctly, and if so can you follow my explanation here? 🙂

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
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• This post was modified 5 years, 6 months ago by Henrik Ekblom.

[judahkim]

Thank you so much, Henrik!  That makes sense, however, the audio files I placed in the tracker are samples that I want to replace with SD3 drummer samples. The original samples had no bleed and SD3 seems to be adding bleed in the mixer. Can I change this??

• This post was modified 5 years, 6 months ago by judahkim.

[Henrik Ekblom]

judahkim wrote:

Thank you so much, Henrik!  That makes sense, however, the audio files I placed in the tracker are samples that I want to replace with SD3 drummer samples. The original samples had no bleed and SD3 seems to be adding bleed in the mixer. Can I change this??

• This post was modified 5 years, 6 months ago by judahkim.

Yes, that is done in the mixer page. Select the channel you want to control (for example the snare bottom channel). On the right side of the mixer in the Properties, you can see all the levels of bleed, and you can set the volume for every instrument, that bleeds into that mixer channel.

In properties, you can also disable bleed, which will unload the bleed audio, e.g. save RAM for you.

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

[judahkim]

I’ve done all that, and the bleed is still there. So weird! I’m wondering if there’s another setting I overlooked…

[Bear-Faced Cow]

Are you certain that you’re hearing bleed and not an ambience channel? Perhaps, you May have hid one of the ambience channels that have instruments going through them.

jord

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[judahkim]

UPDATE:  it’s working for the most part now. I didn’t click the specific instrument next to “properties.”  However I’m still hearing HIHat in just about every track regardless of bleed level being turned on or off. Any ideas? And Jord I appreciate you chiming in!

[Bear-Faced Cow]

Can you ZIP up your SD3 project and post it? It might be easier to help you figure this out if you put up a file to work with.

jord

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Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

[judahkim]

Ok before I go that route I notice that the HH bleed goes way when: in the tracker window I turn up the mix on that track (ie source vs SD 3 sample) all the way to the right – but then the level of HH is barely audible. I have the rest of the tracks set this way and they work fine.  Any thoughts?

[Henrik Ekblom]

Notice that you have two types of files in the tracker:

1. the source audio, that you are tracking. That audio can’t be mixed in the Mixer.
2. the MIDI that the tracker has generated. This MIDI is what will trigger the drum kit in Superior Drummer 3, and the sound that’s being generated can be mixed in the mixer.

So to make sure you are not trying to mix the tracker audio files, export the tracker MIDI to the song track, and play it from there when you want to mix!

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

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