Basic hihat question

[LeanderL]

Hi! Another question please…I grew up with Guitar Pro which...

Hi!

Another question please…I grew up with Guitar Pro which has open hihat, closed hihat and pedal hihat. When listening to the various SD articulations, I am not sure yet what the “pedal closed” sample is. Does “pedal closed” simply stop an open hit -> you hit the hihat with e.g. open 2, then stop the sound with “pedal closed”? Or is it the sound the hihat makes when you use your foot to play the pedal and it goes up and down WITHOUT you hitting the hihat with your sticks?

I am looking for the correct sample that does this pedal footwork, e.g. a drummer might play a groove with the ride, but the hihat pedal goes up and down all the time. What articulation is this? I don’t know what is used for footwork or which samples are triggered when hitting the hihat with the stick.

What articulations are used to create the hihat groove here?

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• This post was modified 1 week, 6 days ago by LeanderL.

Hi!

Another question please…I grew up with Guitar Pro which has open hihat, closed hihat and pedal hihat. When listening to the various SD articulations, I am not sure yet what the “pedal closed” sample is. Does “pedal closed” simply stop an open hit -> you hit the hihat with e.g. open 2, then stop the sound with “pedal closed”? Or is it the sound the hihat makes when you use your foot to play the pedal and it goes up and down WITHOUT you hitting the hihat with your sticks?

I am looking for the correct sample that does this pedal footwork, e.g. a drummer might play a groove with the ride, but the hihat pedal goes up and down all the time. What articulation is this? I don’t know what is used for footwork or which samples are triggered when hitting the hihat with the stick.

What articulations are used to create the hihat groove here?

SeelenPuls ~ Poetic metal from Austria: SeelenPuls.at
Grummelgnom ~ Sociocritical metal from the forest: Grummelgnom.at

• This post was modified 1 week, 6 days ago by LeanderL.

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Everyone has his own workflow, but I can tell from my side that after I began working with SD3 I have never again programmed drum midi outside SD3. You have all there, not only kit pieces in order, but also all articulations in perfect order. You need to place your notes in pedal closed or pedal open and end of the story.

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[LeanderL]

Another basic question please: Open hihat 0-5…what are these? They go from a bit open to very open…but how do you use these? Is open hihat 0 a bit open and hihat 5 is the maximum of an open hihat? And you go from 0-5…or do you think about setting up your virtual hihat and decide that “open 3” is the maximum, then play with open 0 to open 3?
You can tweak a real hihat and its level of openness…open 5 sounds too much for me…just taking the sound…so I went for “open 2” for my basic open hihat sound…but does this mean that using open 3, open 4 and open 5 is unnatural or even impossible because it would require resetting/setting up differently a real hardware hihat?

Google AI says:

In Superior Drummer, “Open Hi-Hat 0” to “Open Hi-Hat 5” are different levels of openness, controlled by MIDI CC4 (pedal position) or the mod wheel (CC1), where 0 is fully open and 127 is fully closed; you adjust these stages by clicking the articulation tabs in the ‘Drums’ view and altering their volume/settings in the ‘Level‘ or ‘Mapping‘ tabs, or by recording CC data from your e-drum pedal or MIDI keyboard for realistic transitions. 

This sounds like I should either use open 0 to open x…. or if I say that open 2 is my default “open” articulation, I should stop using open 3, 4, 5, correct?

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[LeanderL]

PS Just checked some official Toontrack midis. Some use open 4 als the default open sound…another midi uses open 3…and yet another midi alternates between open 4 and open 1…is this even possible DURING a doublebass part? Is this possible and you can alter the open sound depending on where you hit the open hihat or is this fake?

Official Toontrack midi with open edge 4, but with open edge 1 variation…first hihat only, then full drums:

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