Cesar ValdezEven after using the Roland TD-30 preset for my kit, the articulations on the pads as far as the edge, middle, and center on some of the drums don’t seem to be calibrated correctly. Are you supposed to adjust the zones on the toms just like the snare. I thought the process of setting up my E-kit with SD Was going to be a breeze. Boy was I wrong. I whole thing is becoming a headache Inducing convoluted nightmare. Hope I can workout all the kinks real soon.
Ilja KörrerHi,
your set will not respond as you expect as long as you don’t have the right hardware in front of SD3. Positional sensing is the key. But as far as I know, only the snare has positional sensing. Thats the reason why your snare reacts to 3 zones and the Tom’s don’t. How shall SD get the zone information when your Drumbrain doesn’t send any? Please tell us your hardware setup in front of SD.
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Mark KingAre you using the pads that came with the td30? It’s only the snare and ride you need to setup. If you have a homemade snare then check on the td30 that positional sensing is actually sending correct. Not all pads will send it correctly. I use a td30 and am having no such problems. SD3 has all the tools you need in the edrum settings as long as you set the td30 up correctly.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
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Thanked by: Cesar ValdezCesar ValdezI’m using all original Roland pads: 108, 128, PDX-100, 125X, Kd-140, various cymbal pads. All going through 2 TD-30 modules plus a TMC-6 MIDI converter. MIDI numbers have been changed on the second module. Set-up on the TD-30 seems to be dialed in just right for my playing style. Pads respond very well to those settings I’ve set in the module monitoring the sounds through the module itself. They just don’t respond that way through SD. It sounds like some of the articulations aren’t dialed in just right in SD. If I click on a drum on my laptop and then hit that same drum on the pad (v-drum) they don’t sound the same. The articulations are a little bit off. Not every drum responses this way on every pad I hit. On the computer, clicking a drum will give me a nice “round” tone. When I hit the pad, I won’t always get that round tone on some of the pads. I’ll get a harsh attack like a rim shot or more of the edge sounds in the center of the pad. I’m I suppose to make further adjustments in the drum tabs section as well as the e-drums section. I know making setting changes in the drums tab are not global, But I’ve seen some people making adjustments in drums tab section. I’m confused. Hope you guys help.
Ilja KörrerThat’s the problem we all know and had when first using SD with an e-drum. No one has a ever posted a solution why superior behaves this way. When you open your midi monitor you will see that even the incoming notes with 127 volume don’t sound like a click on the drum in superior. If you are using a td-30, you only have positional sensing on the snare drum. If you want PS on every pad, you need something like the e-drumin module. On this “Midimodule” and its software you are able to adjust PS to every drumpad.
If you want to get some good advice and help, look for Luke Oswald on Youtube. He has done a workshop with exactly setup like yours!!!
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Thanked by: Cesar ValdezMark KingYou do get the same sound. Easy way to prove is to hit a drum and record it. Look at the note recorded and see what velocity it is. If it is 127 play it back and then click the drum in sd3. They will be the same. A lot is perception while physically playing as opposed to just click a mouse on a pad. Also sd3 does not use the exact same sample every time you hit at the same velocity. This is deliberate so you don’t get machine gunning.
When you click a pad you will get a full velocity hit. If you want that when playing then set sensitivity higher so you get 127 more of the time. SD3 is not as forgiving as the module and is also more dynamic from soft to loud. You may need to change your velocity curves. If ps is not working right then disable it and see how it goes. Ps on the td30 is not perfect. Just take a look at the setting in the td30 and hit from outer to inner. The meter on the td30 will show how it is responding. The tension on the head makes a huge difference to how ps works. Make sure the head is not loose. I actually have mine quite tight for it to work right. Also if you don’t want certain articulations playing then disable them.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
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Thanked by: Cesar ValdezCesar ValdezI wonder if going with EZDrummer would have been an easier/wiser choice? Too late for that now right? I think toontrack should offer free trials. But anyway, thanks a lot guys for all the great advice and tips and putting my mind at ease. Definitely going to look into all of that. I’ll start fresh and go through my settings in the module and work my way up. I need patience. It’s going to take some time. If you guys have anymore tips that can help me further, please shoot‘em my way. Thanks again, I really appreciated. 🥁
Mark KingI wonder if going with EZDrummer would have been an easier/wiser choice? Too late for that now right? I think toontrack should offer free trials. But anyway, thanks a lot guys for all the great advice and tips and putting my mind at ease. Definitely going to look into all of that. I’ll start fresh and go through my settings in the module and work my way up. I need patience. It’s going to take some time. If you guys have anymore tips that can help me further, please shoot‘em my way. Thanks again, I really appreciated. 🥁
If you had ezdrummer then all the mapping would be in the module. You say you use two td30s so you could never get a kit in ez to do a monster kit like you can in sd3. Read the manual a few times and get used to the concepts. I have ez packs and old sd2 pa is but never use them as the newer sd3 packs are so much better for edrumin with the added articulations. Especially tip and edge on cymbals.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
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