add rim to snares?

[bpjacobsen]

I have been adding my own snares and using the velocity gate but now I need to add the rim click/xs sound to the rim but can’t figure out how to without replacing the snare. Is there a way to add the rim articulation without having to create a separate instrument? Seems like the existing stock snares have the rims included.

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[Mark King]

Yes you need to stack the rim sample as a rim.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[bpjacobsen]

Mark King wrote:

Yes you need to stack the rim sample as a rim.

OK, would you mind elaborating on this please? I’m having trouble figuring out how to add a stack as a rim articulation. Not seeing an option for this.

If I add a hit to my stack using a snare and select rimshot only, it does not work. it just plays the sample with the other snares. How do I actually assign a rim shot to the rim? Or is this going to require me to add it as a separate instrument and map it as the rim shot in Midi mapping? Similar to adding the instruments for my cowbell and ride bell? I was under the impression that I could just add the rimshot articulation to the imported snare but I’m beginning to think that is not possible? It’s looking like you can only do this with the stock library snares? or what am I missing?

• This post was modified 1 year, 9 months ago by bpjacobsen.

[bpjacobsen]

Still struggling with this and would appreciate some more specific  detail on how to add rim clicks to my snare that is using a stack of my own samples. How do I map one stack piece to the rim so it only plays my rim clicks when I hit the rim? TIA

[Mark King]

I’d have to try using my own samples but I haven’t done that yet. If I get a chance at some point I’ll see if I can test it out

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

[bpjacobsen]

Well, so far the only way I have been able to do this is by adding a separate snare instrument using the rim only option then I have to go to midi settings for each kit/project, click my rim then select the rim only hit. then it works. this is unfortunate but I guess it will have to do. It doesn’t appear there is a way to add rim to an imported sample. It has to be done as a separate instrument.

As much as SD3 sounds great and has tons of features, there are plenty of things that need improvement. Like the ability to bulk add multilayered samples vs having to import them one by one. And an automatic velocity layer split that evenly distributes multiple sample velocitys vs having to mathematically determine each range then apply them one by one. and the ability to set them up as round robin, though I”m having pretty darn good results just splitting up the velocity layers to get a natural sound for the most part combined with velocity curve tweaking. but I feel a lot of things could be improved to significantly reduce the labor involved with importing your own samples. i will say though, it was well worth the effort. I have some really good snares that stock library did not have. mostly Pearl snares.

[patrick maguire]

Yes the method of adding (stacking) samples to multiple articulations is a bummer. The problem stems from the fact that every sample set doesnt have the same articulatioms. Some snares include many articulations, some only have 3 or 4.

ITs an issue born out of the luxury of the sophisticated articulation design in SD3. IT would be cool if it at least would “try” like replace the obvious ones in a “stack” and leave the missing ones empty. Its been talked about often on this forum.

Being able to “duplicate” and instrument and all the routing parameters would go a long way to solve many of these issues.

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• This post was modified 1 year, 9 months ago by patrick maguire.

[bpjacobsen]

patrick maguire wrote:

Yes the method of adding (stacking) samples to multiple articulations is a bummer. The problem stems from the fact that every sample set doesnt have the same articulatioms. Some snares include many articulations, some only have 3 or 4.

ITs an issue born out of the luxury of the sophisticated articulation design in SD3. IT would be cool if it at least would “try” like replace the obvious ones in a “stack” and leave the missing ones empty. Its been talked about often on this forum.

Being able to “duplicate” and instrument and all the routing parameters would go a long way to solve many of these issues.

• This post was modified 1 year, 9 months ago by patrick maguire.

Yes agreed! Like right now, I’m working on the tedious task of adding instruments to 8 octobans. The first one I added was an actual octoban sound and I have about 28 multi-layered samples split up via the velocity gates to get a fairly natural sound. But this takes forever. The ability to copy a whole stack with it’s settings would save gobs of time.

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