16 Channels in Logic, more than 16 in SD3 Mixer — where to route “overflow”

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  • drumjack52
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    You can route them to whatever channels you have left in the SD3 mixer. Then create any additional channels you want/need in your daw to receive that audio.


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    Jack
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    Ken
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    Jack, I have a question,

    does this not apply to the number of physical inputs and outputs of your audio hardware?


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    drumjack52
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    Jack, I have a question,

    does this not apply to the number of physical inputs and outputs of your audio hardware?

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    No. The physical I/O of your hardware means nothing to the number of outputs from a vi. As long as you’re staying in the box (ITB – in the computer) physical I/O means not a blooming thing.


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    Jack
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    Kirtland Peterson
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    Aloha e Jack,

    First and foremost: MAHALO!

    Just so I’m clear…

    You can route them to whatever channels you have left in the SD3 mixer.

    What do you mean by what channels I have left?

    I must be stuck on the idea I’ve got 16+ SD3 mixer channels that I’m porting to only 16 Logic Pro mixer channels.

    Also (sorry to be so dense):

    create any additional channels you want/need in your daw to receive that audio

    So the 16 SD3 channels in Logic Pro would be one “unit.”

    Then I’d create aux tracks and send the “overflow” SD3 mixer signals to them, and just have to remember that, at their source, they belong together with the 16 channels?

    Again, mahalo!

    Cat


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    drumjack52
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    Aloha e Jack,

    First and foremost: MAHALO!

    Just so I’m clear…

    You can route them to whatever channels you have left in the SD3 mixer.

    What do you mean by what channels I have left?

    I must be stuck on the idea I’ve got 16+ SD3 mixer channels that I’m porting to only 16 Logic Pro mixer channels.

    Also (sorry to be so dense):

    create any additional channels you want/need in your daw to receive that audio

    So the 16 SD3 channels in Logic Pro would be one “unit.”

    Then I’d create aux tracks and send the “overflow” SD3 mixer signals to them, and just have to remember that, at their source, they belong together with the 16 channels?

    Again, mahalo!

    Cat

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    By ‘whatever channels you have left in the SD3 mixer’ I meant exactly that – if you have any leftover output channels in the SD3 mixer you could group what you call the overflow to those outputs. And the follow-on to that is to create additional audio tracks in Logic to receive the output(s) from SD3. But it doesn’t appear that you have any additional output channels left in the SD3 mixer. I can’t see your whole mixer setup but I’m guessing you’re routing each kit piece to a separate pair of outputs. It’s not necessary to do that. I’ll explain how I do it below:

    I work in ProTools but the process is pretty much the same as regards the SD3 mixer. I make good use of the mixer routing. In this example I’m using the stock Ayotte kit. I route all the kick drum mics to output 1/2. Then all the snare mics to output 3/4. HiHat to output 7/8. All the rack tom mics go to output 9/10. All the overheads go to output 11/12. And the ambient mics go to outputs 13/14. If I’m using the Death & Darkness SDX I also have the cymbal mics go to the same output SD3 mixer channel as the overheads. Why did I skip outputs 5/6 in the SD3 mixer? I don’t know – it just ended up that way. That’s 6 outputs from the SD3 mixer. That leaves me 10 more output channels in SD3 to use for whatever kit pieces I might want to use. Then in ProTools I create 6 tracks to receive the outputs from SD3. What I did in PT is to create a track preset whereby with one mouse click I get the whole setup in the current session – SD3 with all the routing I setup, all the PT tracks to receive the SD3 outs with those routed to their own sub-buss and anything like compressors/limiters/etc. already set on inserts. I then make adjustments to the kit to fit the song.

    Each SDX has it’s own mixer channels corresponding to whatever is in said SDX. So accordingly you can adapt what I do to the specific SDX in use. There’s no need to route each kit piece to a separate output from SDD3. Make good use of the built-in mixer and save yourself some grief.


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    Jack
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    Bear-Faced Cow
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    The real question is what specifically is the need to wrote every individual channel into Logic Pro X?  most things can be accomplished using bus outputs/stems.

    jord


    Jordan L. Chilcott

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    drumjack52
    Participant

    The real question is what specifically is the need to wrote every individual channel into Logic Pro X?  most things can be accomplished using bus outputs/stems.

    jord

    Exactly. And like I just asked/mentioned – individual tracks in Logic for the same room mics for different kit pieces? The SD3 mixer is a good thing for me.


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    Jack
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    Bear-Faced Cow
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    Same here! Unless you plan to treat individual kit pieces with specialized plug-ins that offer some sonic benefit over SD3, you’re better off doing your mixing into bus channels within SD3 and route those into Logic. In the case of automation, you’d more likely to automate the bus output than individual kit pieces.

    jord


    Jordan L. Chilcott

    Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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