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Stacking question

Superior Drummer 3 Help
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  • Brad
    Participant

    Hi!

    Can you only stack drums to the center? I want to combine different snare sounds…it lets me add them to center…but does this mean this “combined snare sound” will only work with regular hits and not other articulations such as flams and rolls etc.? Can you combine e.g. two snare sounds and add them to all possible articulations?

    Hi there,

    Depending on what instrument you are stacking on, all articulations are available, but they do need to be stacked individually.

    Stack-multiple


    Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.4.0
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    LeanderL
    Participant

    Thanks. I tried that…by adding a snare to the center…but when I want to add the same snare to a different articulation, only the new stack is displayed, but no more center.

    SeelenPuls ~ Poetic metal from Austria: SeelenPuls.at
    Grummelgnom ~ Sociocritical metal from the forest: Grummelgnom.at

    Mark King
    Participant

    You need a separate stack for each articulations.

    SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

    Brad
    Participant

    Thanks. I tried that…by adding a snare to the center…but when I want to add the same snare to a different articulation, only the new stack is displayed, but no more center.

    I’m not quite sure I understand. Once you have added a particular snare to an articulation, it shows up under “Stack” and the articulation you have added to.

    All the other articulations are still available to create stacks from the list as and as Mark indicated, you can make separate stacks from them per articulation.

    Additional-Articulations


    Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.4.0
    Operating system: macOS Sequoia (15)

    Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
    DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
    DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
    OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
    Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
    Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
    2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)

    LeanderL
    Participant

    Thank you! It seems to work, but I don’t know why the official Toontrack presets have a center stack only. Do you know? Different snare sounds are stacked there, but only in the center…why not for rimshots, edge, flam etc.? Shouldn’t every snare that uses different snare sounds have stacks for EVERY articulation?

    Or am I doing something wrong? My snare is a combination of Tama Bell Brass (Death & Darkness -> Death) and Ludwig Supraphonic from Metal Foundry.
    Now I want to use this combination for every articulation. I select the Ludwig snare (marked green), then select copy and select an articulation. However, the newly created stack only has the correct articulation for the Tama Bell Brass, but not for the Ludwig…I have to right-click the Ludwig snare, then click “Search for instrument”, find the Ludwig snare again and select the correct articulation.

    It only works with a couple of articulations because Metal Foundry does not have offcenter etc.

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    SeelenPuls ~ Poetic metal from Austria: SeelenPuls.at
    Grummelgnom ~ Sociocritical metal from the forest: Grummelgnom.at

    LeanderL
    Participant

    Here…this Mark Lewis preset (Death & Darkness -> death -> Mark Lewis) has 5 snare sounds…but although there are many articulations available, the stack of 5 is only in the center. WHY? When you play a rimshot or flam, you will only hear one of the 5 sounds, correct?

    I am confused…

    snared889sd78z21

    SeelenPuls ~ Poetic metal from Austria: SeelenPuls.at
    Grummelgnom ~ Sociocritical metal from the forest: Grummelgnom.at

    Brad
    Participant

    Here…this Mark Lewis preset (Death & Darkness -> death -> Mark Lewis) has 5 snare sounds…but although there are many articulations available, the stack of 5 is only in the center. WHY? When you play a rimshot or flam, you will only hear one of the 5 sounds, correct?

    I am confused…

    snared889sd78z21

    Sorry I do not know the answer, but I see what you mean. Now whether all SD3 SDXs are like this, I can’t say without looking at every preset for every SDX.


    Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.4.0
    Operating system: macOS Sequoia (15)

    Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
    DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
    DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
    OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
    Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
    Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
    2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)

    LeanderL
    Participant

    Yeah, that’s what I mean. Stacking snares is for creating a better sounding combined sound of different snares…it sounds richer, more powerful etc. … but when playing other articulations, I don’t understand why all of them only have one snare there…because it will sound more basic and does not have the combined sound of multiple snares stacked.

    SeelenPuls ~ Poetic metal from Austria: SeelenPuls.at
    Grummelgnom ~ Sociocritical metal from the forest: Grummelgnom.at

    Bear-Faced Cow
    Participant

    It’s at the producer’s discretion as to what’s needed. Listening to this preset, stacking the rimshot would  not sound more full, but rather would muddy a  mix. All that frequency is not needed in a rimshot since the drummer is banging the hell out of the snare in a metal song. All that’s important is the short crack of the snare. In the parts where centre is playing, it’s probably less frenetic, thus more room.

    jord


    Jordan L. Chilcott

    Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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