Topic: Why is my bus off balance?

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Replied February 12, 2025 at 02:32 #3370450

Brad
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Hi there,

My first thought would be to check that something not routed to the ambient mic is going to 1/2 on the right side. But without having the project file, or knowing what SDX, kit, preset, etc…

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Replied February 12, 2025 at 04:24 #3370470

drumjack52
Participant

Brad wrote:

Hi there,

My first thought would be to check that something not routed to the ambient mic is going to 1/2 on the right side. But without having the project file, or knowing what SDX, kit, preset, etc…

Operating system: macOS Sequoia (15)

Exactly. I can’t find a preset in either the stock core library or Death & Darkness that has a mixer channel labeled ‘room’. This brings up something that gripes me – why can’t people post what presets or whatever they’re running. There’s no such thing as TMI when asking for help.

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
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Replied February 12, 2025 at 04:40 #3370472

Bear-Faced Cow
Participant

Not experiencing this on any of my libraries either. Need more details and a preset as mentioned above.

jord

Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

Replied February 12, 2025 at 14:04 #3370544

sakendrick
Participant

Hopefully this is one better (not a preset). Here’s the sd3p file. The same is occurring with the overheads…. the channel (mics) appear to be balanced or slightly to the left, which is where I would expect the snare to be for drummers perspective. But when the OH and Room channel are sent to the Bus, the right becomes louder.

Any help is appreciated.

Replied February 12, 2025 at 14:09 #3370547

sakendrick
Participant

I just tried something which I can probably live with. If I send the mixer channels directly to the output and NOT the bus, it seems keep the balance correctly. But my normal workflow is to aggregate in Busses, apply fx, sends, then send to output channels. Unless you see something causing the imbalance when it transfers to a bus, it seems like this is is a bug. A simple send to a bus should not be throwing off the balance, but maybe I’m missing something.

Replied February 12, 2025 at 15:33 #3370563

drumjack52
Participant

Shame you’re not using a core library kit to show us but if I had to guess the imbalance might be caused by the fx you’re using. Also look to see what your bleed settings are – that can trip things up.

Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

Replied February 12, 2025 at 15:56 #3370567

sakendrick
Participant

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Toontrack tech support confirmed that this is unexpected behavior, almost as if there is invisible panning happening on those busses (but nothing they can see upstream that is causing it – further supported by the work arounds). Turns out routing to a different bus also resolves the problem. How this invisible panning has occurred is a mystery, but something corrupt I suppose with this template/project.

Replied February 12, 2025 at 16:15 #3370575

Bear-Faced Cow
Participant

It appears you were also using a couple of EZXs. That could also introduce their own routings. Wonder if that’s a third party template.

jord

Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/
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