Topic: Grooves page “MIDI” column…like Huh?

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Replied November 26, 2024 at 08:51 #3324170

John
Moderator

Hi,

the “MIDI” column was added 2,5 years ago, so you would have to roll back to version 3.2.8 if you wish to use a version where it is not present. It was an addition for the users who wished for some kind of visual representation of a groove structure.
An alternative to roll back to v3.2.8 is to un-check the ‘MIDI’ column and then Save your Current Project as Default. This opens the Default state without it. Any saved Project where it is visible, will still open that way until saved with it hidden.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
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Replied November 26, 2024 at 11:03 #3324230
Miroslav
Participant
Yeah…it was awhile between updates…but I just bought and installed 3 new SDX packs, and that was really what prompted my version update, otherwise I wouldn’t have bothered because I was not having any issues with the older version.
I can’t go back to 3.2.8…and still use the newer SDX packs I purchased.

Thanks though for suggesting I save a new Default without the MIDI column…I can live with that.
I kept looking at preferences, hoping there was something there to let me remove the MIDI column more permanently.
TBH…there are at least 3 other columns with rather minimally useful if not useless information…I can’t recall the names now…I just know I always turn them off when I go to the Grooves page.

Honestly…when you look at the MIDI column…with all the little dots…is that REALLY of any use to anyone? LOL!
It just seems like a nice idea…but visually it has zero value AFA disclosing any real information.

Please ask the developers to please fix the Pan sliders, and add direct numeric value input for a version update.
Those sliders are just an awful way to work panning, and I need to edit the panning in ALL the packs very often, to make them work for my drum tracks in mixes.
SD3 is supposed to be a pro drum app…those sliders are like something for kids to play with.

Thanks
- This post was modified 7 months, 2 weeks ago by Miroslav.
Replied November 26, 2024 at 14:00 #3324346

drumjack52
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Miroslav: Be thankful we have sliders for panning instead of knobs like on a real mixing console. Panning is one of those things you really don’t need direct entry of numbers. Yeah it’d be neat but there’s other things that need fixing like better documentation for SD3. Or fixing the Product Manager so one can update all programs/libraries at one time. BTW what does your daw program do for panning – knobs or sliders?

Take something from what real producers/recordists do and that is to work by ear and not eye.

Jack
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Replied November 26, 2024 at 16:05 #3324487

Bear-Faced Cow
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Honestly…when you look at the MIDI column…with all the little dots…is that REALLY of any use to anyone? LOL!
It just seems like a nice idea…but visually it has zero value AFA disclosing any real information.

Sorry, but you couldn’t be more wrong there. There is a lot of useful information in that MIDI column. It represents visually what a drum pattern looks like so that you can choose an appropriate pattern for a song. Looking at a pattern, I can read into what the rhythm or fill will be like.

So, yes, it really does contain useful information that does speed up the process. I would suggest you learn how to use it rather that consider it as wasted dots on a screen.

BTW what does your daw program do for panning – knobs or sliders?

Logic has knobs for both panning and stereo balance. They’re not that difficult to use. I can hover over the pan knob and slide my finger up and down on a trackpad (or mouse up and down). However, for those of us who have been using control surfaces for 2 decades (and a fair share of mixing boards over a lifetime), using the faders as a pan adjustment only comes in handy when adjusting more than one channel.

And yes, I agree with you, ears prevail over numbers.

jord

Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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