Stick_dI have a Roland TD27 with SD3. For a gig , I route the output from Roland module to a Roland PM200 and get the output from monitor into a PA or to a mixer sometimes . At both the setups the drums sound is muffled especially the Toms , I am not very satisfied with the drums sound overall .
can someone advise or direct me to a thread to explain the ideal setup for a gig , how should I use the settings or should I need to do it differently for gig setup ,currently we are – 3 guitars , drums and vocal
thanks – D
drumjack52There’s a lot of unanswered questions here. It seems like you’re using the audio from the TD27 brain right? How are you getting the audio from the computer that hosts SD3 to the mixer? Are you using just a 2 channel (left/right) from SD3 in your computer or are you using multi-out from SD3? Does your desk jockey watch the levels at the mixer so that nothing goes into the red (aka overloads)? Whose toms are muffled – the ones from the TD27 brain or from SD3? If you’re using both the audio from the TD27 and SD3 at the same time you could be dealing with phase cancellation between the 2 sources. Taking the output from the PM200 might not be the best thing to do but that depends on how the output of the PM200 is set up. It could be a level issue or even an impedance issue.
There’s no such thing as TMI (too much info) when asking for help. Even the simplest of things that you think don’t make a difference could do so.
Jack
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Stick_dYou are right , I wasn’t clear and sorry about that.here you go..
1) I am not using the audio from TD27 , I made the local control off . sounds are from SD3
2) here is how I connected and layout : I connected my Mac and TD27 via USB port, I have chosen the audio out in SD3 settings as TD27 , then from the master out from TD27 brain , I run a one quarter inch cable as mono into a Roland pm200 monitor and from the out of PM200, I run a xlr out to a mixer , from mixer overall output to PA. From SD3 I use the standard kit with preset available mixer setting , not changing anything
3)yes, I use only 2 channels from SD3 and not changed to multi out
4) reg sounds from Tom’s are not clear , I am using the tones from SD3 and not the Roland’s version one
5) to isolate the problem and to ensure mixer levels is. It messing up , I disconnected the out from PM200 to the mixer and see if it’s better , but doesn’t .
Hope this is clear now.
Mark KingThe drums are recorded clean. To get more snap live they probably need eq and a bit of compression. This is where you could do with an audio interface with more outputs than the td27 so the sound a can control it. If not then try do it in the sd3 mixer section.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
drumjack52You are right , I wasn’t clear and sorry about that.here you go..
1) I am not using the audio from TD27 , I made the local control off . sounds are from SD3
2) here is how I connected and layout : I connected my Mac and TD27 via USB port, I have chosen the audio out in SD3 settings as TD27 , then from the master out from TD27 brain , I run a one quarter inch cable as mono into a Roland pm200 monitor and from the out of PM200, I run a xlr out to a mixer , from mixer overall output to PA. From SD3 I use the standard kit with preset available mixer setting , not changing anything
3)yes, I use only 2 channels from SD3 and not changed to multi out
4) reg sounds from Tom’s are not clear , I am using the tones from SD3 and not the Roland’s version one
5) to isolate the problem and to ensure mixer levels is. It messing up , I disconnected the out from PM200 to the mixer and see if it’s better , but doesn’t .
Hope this is clear now.
You’re routing is all wrong. If you’re not using the audio output from the TD27 why are you running a cable from the master out of the TD27 brain to anywheres? Also you don’t describe how you get the audio from your computer to the PM200 or mixer.
Your routing should be as such: MIDI from the TD27 brain to a MIDI port on your computer. Then for audio from your computer you can do this a couple of ways depending on the audio capabilities of the PM200. One way is to go from your audio interface to the PM200 and then from the PM200 to the mixer. THAT depends on whether there’s an audio output from the PM200 that’s parallel to the audio input from the computer. The second way is to have 2 audio routes in parallel – one from the audio interface of your computer to the pM200 along with a second output from the audio interface to the mixer.
I would NOT use the TD27 as an audio interface from you computer.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
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PT 2021.6
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