Topic: Toontrack has screwed up!

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Replied September 17, 2024 at 02:58 #3292906

Bear-Faced Cow
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Seems more of a case that you found something that better suits the song or you’re writing style and that’s a good thing.

jord

Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

Replied September 17, 2024 at 10:35 #3292975

coolbreezeonline
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Wow! That’s the most positive review I’ve ever read! You make me want to spend the $179 it takes to buy this expansion. How do you think the grooves it features would fit into Gospel and R&B music?

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.7
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Replied September 17, 2024 at 11:05 #3292985

Raynaldo Martine
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It depends on the styles of. The gospel and R&B, meaning, if your doing a 70s style R&B, it is freaking perfect, but if you’re doing anything that warrants a more electronic (or fairly heavy processed sound), then the NY kits would be a better choice. it’s the same for the gospel you’re doing; if you’re doing modern R&B styled gospel, then the NY kits “no frills punch”. If your doing anything from Casting Crowns, to acoustic Christian music, then you will be in heaven (no pun intended), especially the kits with brushes. Seriously they are difference between Jack Daniel’s, and a 40 year aged single malt scotch. Hobbyists won’t “get” the difference so much as those who’ve spent years in studios praying that drummers (who insist on using their own kit) have drums that sound this natural and good. It also goes without saying, but if you’re doing old Southern Gospel, you’ll love these (again, especially the brushes).

I do a song a day in my studio, and it constantly varies between rock, funk, blues, modern and traditional country. I’ll get a traditional jazz tune occasionally, but the SDX Jazz, and especially theEZX jazz kits are better suited by far.

Keep in mind, if you’re doing have a song that needs “some” to “‘significant” processing, I would start with the Start of the Art kits first, and “build upward” with effects, because you’ll find with these drums, you might not need as much processing as you thought.

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Replied September 17, 2024 at 11:30 #3292990

coolbreezeonline
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Thank You!! I am definitely going to follow your advice. As a somewhat new user, I have felt like I was shooting in the dark and hoped to hit my target when I was selecting expansions and grooves. You have provided some light so I can better see my target. I am into all the types of Gospel and R&B music you mention. Therefore, I will probably eventually buy the products you mention. In the meantime, based on your advice, I can prioritize my purchases according to my needs. Thanks again.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.7
Operating system: macOS Sonoma (14)

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Replied September 17, 2024 at 14:07 #3293036

drumjack52
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Seeing brushes mentioned makes me wish that TT had a demo of this SDX. I’ve been disappointed in other drum programs/expansions that purport to have brushes and been disappointed. Looking for good swirls on snares for example. Normal snare hits aren’t hard to come by but swirls….. Also cymbal hits ala Steve Gadd would be great to have. It’s amazing the control he has with his brush work. He can get strong hits you didn’t think were done with brushes but seeing the video is proof it’s brushes (I’m talking during the work he does with Eric Clapton).

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.7
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram

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Replied September 17, 2024 at 14:41 #3293054

Bear-Faced Cow
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The Firebird and Artisan kits have been my go to’s in this SDX. They work very well with the music I’m doing at the moment. For the most of the stuff, then only thing I add to it is the UA’s Studer A800 plug-in on the output and if I need reverb, either UA’s Capitol Chambers or Hitsville Reverb.

I can definitely share Jack’s disappointment in other drum programs in relation to brushes and swirls, or even the essence of a well recorded kit. I cannot say that I have found the same issues with the most recent SDXs. Even the older expansions, such as Roots gets its share of usage, along with more recent SDXs just as Decades (the late great Al Schmidt was another old school engineer that was to be reckoned with).

To me, ToonTrack has done more than just capture drums recorded be legendary engineers. They’re capturing a legacy.

jord

Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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