George BaumanHello,
I am running the current superior 3 drummer software on a mac computer using the roland td20 kit and using the roland um-one midi to usb cable. When I choose my under presets all I get is “Waiting For Midi” and nothing more. I have local controller turned off on the td20 unit. Am I missing something here? Any help would be great.
MuellercraftI assume you’re using the UM-One because there’s no USB on the TD-20? My Roland kit is the TD-17 so I go with the USB which is pretty much plug and play. However, I have an old Yamaha keyboard with no USB and I use the UM-One with that. Two pieces of advice:
Good luck.
Muellercraft
Composer, performer, producer
Black & Whyte Studio
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SD3, Rooms of Hansa, Indiependent, Roland TD-17 KVX, Mac Studio M1 Ultra, UA Apollo Twin X, HEDD Type 20 monitors
George BaumanThanks for the respose. Yes im using the cable because the unit only has midi out and not USB I am connected to the correct ports and I am also going direct into my computer and not into a hub.
Mark KingSo you are definitely going from the td20 midi out to the midi in of the um-one? In settings on sd3 under midi/audio, in the midi do you see the um-one and is it ticked? There is nothing else to do if you have done this correctly.
To test the td20 midi is working turn local off and connect midi out to midi in (basically a loop). If you can play the td20 sounds then you know the midi on the td20 is good and the cable you are using is good. Make sure local is off to do this otherwise you will get a feedback loop.
If this works then the problem is with the um-one. I’m a pc user so not sure what you would do on a Mac.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
George BaumanYes I have the two MIDI connections running to the td20. Midi in to midi in and midi out to midi out and then usb to my computer. I have the UMONE checked on midi device section as well. I have Local off and I get nothing, the superior drummer software just says “Waiting for MIDI” I got it working a few months ago but for some reason I can’t remember what I did to get it working.
drumjack52George: The first thing I usually tell people with MIDI issues is to get a free utility for telling what’s going on and in this case for Macs that is snoize. Run it in standalone on your computer and it will tell you what’s going on. Although I have the feeling your MIDI routing as stated in your last post might be the issue. Usually for MIDI you go from say MIDI out on a device like a drum brain to MIDI in on a computer.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
Mark KingYou say midi out to midi out and midi in to midi in. That is wrong.
It should be midi out of the module to midi in on the um-one and midi out of the um-one to midi in of the td20. Local should be switched off.
To play sd3 you only need the midi out of the td20 to the midi in of the um-one. You don’t need to send midi back to the td20 and you don’t need to turn local off. That is only required if you want the midi to play the td20.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
drumjack52You say midi out to midi out and midi in to midi in. That is wrong.
It should be midi out of the module to midi in on the um-one and midi out of the um-one to midi in of the td20. Local should be switched off.
To play sd3 you only need the midi out of the td20 to the midi in of the um-one. You don’t need to send midi back to the td20 and you don’t need to turn local off. That is only required if you want the midi to play the td20.
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If you don’t turn local off with a 2-way connection that’s why you get multiple hits/notes.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
George BaumanThe UMONE has written on the ends of the cables where youre supposed to plug in which I have plugged in correctly, When i run snoize the way you describe it, i get no data at all. But when I run the way the cables describe the input/output they are supposed to run to I get data from Snoize.
drumjack52The UMONE has written on the ends of the cables where youre supposed to plug in which I have plugged in correctly, When i run snoize the way you describe it, i get no data at all. But when I run the way the cables describe the input/output they are supposed to run to I get data from Snoize.
I’m confused by your description. Are you connecting the cables like is described on this page when you get data: https://www.roland.com/global/products/um-one/specifications/ The MIDI in on the UMONE is to be connected to the MIDI out of the TD20 and the MIDI out of the UMONE is to be connected to the MIDI in of the TD20. Make sure that the MIDI out/through of the TD20 is configured as MIDI out and NOT MIDI through.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
Mark KingAh the um-1 does not have midi sockets but plugs, so no cables involved but the um-1 itself. So yes the manual says on one of the cables to midi out and the other says to midi in. So that is what you should do. Mist midi interfaces are sockets and labelled midi in and midi out which is different.
So you really could do with a midi cable which has plugs on both end (male) and do what I said earlier which is; loop in and out on the td20 with local turned off. When you do that and play the td20 it should be triggering the internal sounds via midi and not internally. This will prove that the module is sending midi.
By the way thru on a Roland module is soft through and is usually midi out and thru combined. Worth looking at the settings though and choosing either out or soft through (can’t remember the actual terms but the td20 manual will show that)
I checked the td20 manual and it is either out or soft thru. Both will still send midi when pads are hit. Do try both though.
Is this an original um-1 or the um-one mkii? Either way you should see the midi indicator on the um flash when you hit a pad if connected correctly. The manual says the selector button (mkii) should be set to comp and the driver installed.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
George BaumanSo I had some success last night and came here to share in case others in the future are in the same position as I was. I was using the UMONE Roland Midi to USB cable plugged into my Roland TD20 drum unit. I had the ends plugged in just like how the Roland cables are labeled. Midi input to Midi in on the Roland and Midi Out/Through to Midi Out on the Roland. I had Location on the Roland Turned off in the midi settings on the Roland Drum unit and the tab on the UMONE set to “Comp”. Superior drummer still said “Waiting for Midi”. I thought it would automatically load everything but no, it was waiting for me to strike my pads. As soon as I gave my snare a good solid hit, it registered and all the pads pulled up in Superior Drummer 3. I had a blast playing through all the EZX and Superior Drummer kits Ive purchased over the years last night. So much so I got 4hrs of sleep before work.
Special thank you to drumjack52 for suggesting using Snoize app to narrow down if I had a midi problem, Snoize showed me I did not have a bad cable which made me realize It was a superior drummer issue which turned out to not be an issue at all but just a misunderstanding on how the software registers your external drum/midi device.
Thanks to everyone who responded.
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