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I’m using SD3 as a plug-in within Protools to do some drum replacement.
the song has a mapped tempo but the drums are intentionally loose to the grid & move away in sections.
when I import drums into tracker everything seems to lign up & move with the audio. As soon as I export that midi into SD3 or directly into PT it no longer follows the audio & seems to follow a tempo that is correct, i.e when the drums speed up the midi doesn’t.
I am using Follow Host & when I import to tracker I have tried Follow Tempo on & off – neither seem to work!
can anyone help!!!
I found the easiest way was to enable midi out in sd3, select follow host, create a midi track with no output(to avoid a loop), play the track and record the midi on the new midi track as it comes out of sd3. Make sure you select sd3 as the input. I found this works better than messing with tempo tracks. After you have done this disable midi out and send the midi track to sd3.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
Thankyou! This works! However it’s a real pain to have to work around it like this, not ideal Toontrack! Any other solutions within Tracker/SD would be useful?
Make sure the tempo map in the Tracker matches your imported audio. Also ensure that your audio has no silent space at the beginning. That is key to having your MIDI sync up. I just tested with a song I’m planning re-record with a drum stem audio track and the drums sync up to the audio no problem when I drag the MIDI from the tracker into Logic, and Superior Drummer’s timeline. No workarounds were necessary.
jord
Thanks – that sounds like it would solve it.
can you expand on these –
‘Make sure the tempo map in the Tracker matches your imported audio’
I assume this is done by importing the tempo map of the session into tracker?
‘ensure that your audio has no silent space at the beginning’
So export the audio from the first drum hit or nearby bar header? My experience of this is it then doesn’t line up with the rest of the project whilst in tracker. I guess if I know the bar the midi needs to start from I can then export and have it start on that bar?
thanks in advance 👍
Also ensure that your audio has no silent space at the beginning.
You don’t need to import a tempo map. You can hit “Analyze Tempo…” in the Tracker. It did a good job lining up the tempo to the imported audio. If your imported audio matches the tempo in your DAW, it shouldn’t be an issue. I usually do a bit of prep work in my DAW which includes analyzing the audio’s tempo and setting the DAW’s tempo map accordingly, if this is a new project. In my case, this was a new project and all I have to work with is a mixed audio track. I made the sure to locate the downbeat of the track. It doesn’t mean that everything starts at the beginning. It means that the downbeat is lined up to the audio.
Working in Logic I was also able to split the drums from the audio and import it into the Tracker. I then pressed the Analyze Tempo and saw that everything lined up tempo wise. From there, I re-created each kit piece (in my case by duplicating the track). Minor adjustments to the threshold and then exported the MIDI.
Trust me in that it took far longer to type this post than do the prep work.
jord
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