KstruggsHi
I use SD3 to record drums with my ekit. I recently downloaded Legacy of Rock and then transferred it to a SSD. I think I may have deleted something i wasn’t supposed after transferring because now if the SSD is not connected I can’t hear the recorded drums on playback in Ableton. The midi notes are there. I understand not being to find the kits or playing them but now i can’t hear recorded saved drum parts. SD3 says no libraries availabe or whatever the message is. Which I get. I’ve used core library from ssd with no problem for a long time. Trying to avoid deleting and reinstalling everything if there’s something stupid I’m overlooking. Which is most likely the case. Usually is.
Thanks
BradHi there,
I assume you ran the installer for Legacy of Rock and selected a custom install for your SSD drive or moved it post install. Either way, it contains the sample library for Legacy of Rock. Even after you “record” a performance, you are only recording MIDI control information, you’re not recording audio. MIDI requires you to load the samples before you can “play” the recorded MIDI, which triggers the samples loaded into memory by SD3, therefore you must have the SSD where the samples are installed connected.
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KstruggsExcuse my ignorance..So if I record drums into Ableton how would you hear the drums on playback on my iphone etc? Obviously the samples aren’t loaded onto every sonos speaker everywhere? Is there a piece of the program I am supposed to leave on the laptop so it commits the sounds to recorded tracks? I was using the core library like this i thought. I could certainly record the drum midi and hear it on playback without my ssd connected.
BradHi there,
I am probably misunderstanding your process, so I am asking some basic questions regarding Ableton, which I have zero experience with, in order to help identify the issue.
I guess my first question is: are you exporting the Master track to a stereo audio file and not hearing the drum track on that file?
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KstruggsThanks for your help! Basically my process.. I record my guitars and everything where I mix and then go back to my Roland kit and trigger sd3 there. I was just doing a rough track so just one superior drummer midi track. Generally I use multiple outs to mix but each drum mic in ableton. In this instance it’s just the midi superior drummer track. Record the drums. Unplug the ssd and head back over to mixing station and there’s midi info in the track but not midi sound with the SSD not connected. Which I’m guessing is bc I deleted something I shouldn’t have when transferring the sdx to the ssd but not sure. I was doing this with core library fine until I downloaded the sdx and moved some files to trash I thought I wouldn’t need. Not sure. Does that make sense? Seems I would need the ability to mix without my ssd constantly connected. Thanks again
drumjack52Excuse my ignorance..So if I record drums into Ableton how would you hear the drums on playback on my iphone etc? Obviously the samples aren’t loaded onto every sonos speaker everywhere? Is there a piece of the program I am supposed to leave on the laptop so it commits the sounds to recorded tracks? I was using the core library like this i thought. I could certainly record the drum midi and hear it on playback without my ssd connected.
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Your iPhone probably has a General MIDI synthesizer in it and that’s why you’re hearing playback on it. So you’re NOT hearing the actual sounds from SD3 or any SDX. To hear it in Ableton you need to have that SSD that Fields of Rock is installed on connected and turned on. I don’t know why you disconnect the SSD anyways – care to explain? For that matter where do you have the SD3 core library installed to? Like Brad says MIDI isn’t audio it’s just instructions on how to play the sounds but not the sounds themselves. SD3 is like any other vi (virtual instrument) synthesizer except it uses samples and not synthesized waveforms.
Jack
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KstruggsI disconnect the ssd so that I can mix in a different place. Wherever I am. Once the midi is recorded and saved it should play back on ableton or on any device without the ssd connected, no?
drumjack52I disconnect the ssd so that I can mix in a different place. Wherever I am. Once the midi is recorded and saved it should play back on ableton or on any device without the ssd connected, no?
No. You have completely missed what I and others have written. MIDI is just instructions on what notes to play and you need an instrument to play those notes. In this case said instrument is SD3. When you record the MIDI you are NOT recording the actual sounds. You could take that same set of MIDI notes and use another vi and it would sound totally different than SD3. So you need that ssd plugged in and running to hear the sounds. When you like what you hear you then render the MIDI to audio using whatever procedure used in Ableton to render MIDI to audio. Is this your first time doing recording on a computer with daw software?
I suggest you Google the word ‘MIDI’.
Jack
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drumjack52Just trying to help.
Jack
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KstruggsAppreciate it. I am not an expert at midi. I am 42 I’ve been playing guitar and drums my whole life. Anytime I’ve done studio work I’ve had an engineer. A few years ago as my life has changed I decided to try doing some home recording. I’m learning still. I am having an issue that wasn’t happening before. I have spent my years practicing playing instruments not pads that trigger software. I came here because I feel like people here would be more experienced with such things. I think I figured what to try now in ableton after reading your comment. Thanks for the help.
BradAppreciate it. I am not an expert at midi. I am 42 I’ve been playing guitar and drums my whole life. Anytime I’ve done studio work I’ve had an engineer. A few years ago as my life has changed I decided to try doing some home recording. I’m learning still. I am having an issue that wasn’t happening before. I have spent my years practicing playing instruments not pads that trigger software. I came here because I feel like people here would be more experienced with such things. I think I figured what to try now in ableton after reading your comment. Thanks for the help.
Let us know if you need any more help. There’s lots of people on this board with tons of experience. There’s never a “dumb” question.
With so many variables involved, different DAWs, different computer configurations, there’s a lot to learn and once you think you know enough, something new is developed that changes the landscape. So just keep working and keep asking questions.
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KstruggsThanks! I firgured it out. I always run the mics out of SD3 into Ableton into separate audio tracks so I can mix like a real kit. Obviously it makes them audio automatically. So I guesss that was confusing to me that playback was acting differently. Got it. Oops
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Thanked by: BradBradThanks! I firgured it out. I always run the mics out of SD3 into Ableton into separate audio tracks so I can mix like a real kit. Obviously it makes them audio automatically. So I guesss that was confusing to me that playback was acting differently. Got it. Oops
Glad you figured it out.
Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)
drumjack52Thanks! I firgured it out. I always run the mics out of SD3 into Ableton into separate audio tracks so I can mix like a real kit. Obviously it makes them audio automatically. So I guesss that was confusing to me that playback was acting differently. Got it. Oops
You just have to remember to render those tracks to audio. They only exist as audio as long as SD3 has access to the samples which are on your SSD. I too run the kit pieces in SD3 out to separate tracks in ProTools to record the audio so I can treat them like a real drum kit. Once I have that audio recorded I no longer need to have SD3 active so to save cpu power I disable SD3.
Jack
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Superior Drummer 3.4.0
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PT 2021.6
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