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Hi, I’m using EZ Drummer 3 in Logic pro.
While I’m programming drum parts, I’m usually moving the notes to look for the instruments I need (snare, kick, hh, etc…). I have to listen until I ear what I’m looking for, which is quite annoying.
What I hate is that I can get some hi-hats at the bottom of the editor, then find some more hi-hats somewhere much higher.
So I’m wondering why all kick sounds are next to each other, then snare, all hats, crashes, etc…
All the sounds are all over the place which doesn’t make sense, does it?
Other thing: is there a way to get the names in this midi editor like I do for logic built in midi instruments? So I could write a note where I need a kick, snare, etc.
After years of using these 2 programs like that, I’d like to be able to eventually rearrange where the elements are in my editor, and then have names so I can see directly where to find a kick.
Thanks!
It’s for a great reason. EZD3/SD3 are Standard Midi compatible making the programs universal to most 3rd parties. So a lot of these main instruments must obey certain notes. And since Toontrack is way more sophisticated than Standard Midi, it must assign it’s additional instruments and articulations with what notes are left available outside of Standard Midi.
I get it’s not fun to look at in a Piano Roll, but this being the reason might soften the stress. Otherwise, EZD3’s Grid Editor smokes any Piano Roll if you feel like giving it a shot.
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Thanked by: Scott EshlemanOk so there’s nothing I can do then, appart from switching to EZ drummer’s editor, which I never even thought about.
I will for sure! Thanks a lot!
A Logic Guru might have a different recommendation. I was just answering your first question.
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I would agree with Shootie here. Unless you’re adept in Logic’s Environment and have the patience to create a MIDI note label object and attach it to a track, why complicate things? The EZ note editor has everything you need and you don’t need to know the note locations.
One of the other alternative to the piano roll is the Step Editor (formerly known as Hyper Editor). In that, you can create only the lanes you need for drum articulations and rearrange them to your liking. The other is using the Step Sequencer object and editor but that would sound too drum machine like.
The only reason I can see a need to keep it in Logic is if you are moving things around using the arrangement markers.
EZ Drummer also adds further advantages with features such as Edit Play Styles.
Jord
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Thanked by: ShootieThanks guys! I never even considered creating my midi partitions in toontrack’s editors but I’ll start using it for sure. It hs everything I’m lacking in Logic’s editor so i’d be dumb to keep programming drums inside Logic…
I wouldn’t go as far as to say that it would be dumb to use LPX nor is Logic lacking. There are different workflows in which Logic shines, when it comes to drums. Drummer is one of my most used workflows alongside EZ Drummer. The combination is awesome when I am coming up with an idea on my guitar. It’s something Bandmate doesn’t quite offer me at the moment (although it is has its own merits for other parts of my writing).
jord
What do you mean by “Drummer” and “Bandmate”?
Creating drums in Logic having the instruments all over the place while not being able to have labels to know where they are is very boring.
Now that I am aware of the built-in editor which has all that, yes it would be silly to keep on using Logic’s piano roll (I also wonder where that name came from).
Anyway, Jesus Christ is Lord. 😏
What do you mean by “Drummer” and “Bandmate”?
These are features within Logic Pro X and EZ Drummer, respectively, that enable the ability to rapidly create drum grooves for songs. I highly suggest you look them up on YouTube. Shootie has an excellent channel for all things EZ. Plenty of videos for Drummer. For me, I tie both worlds together as it enables me to go from idea to song in a relatively short amount of time. However, as they say on the internet, YMMV.
Creating drums in Logic having the instruments all over the place while not being able to have labels to know where they are is very boring.
Now that I am aware of the built-in editor which has all that, yes it would be silly to keep on using Logic’s piano roll (I also wonder where that name came from).
The term Piano Roll came from the old style player pianos.
As you seem to be discovering the concepts of drums, General MIDI Standards and DAW workflows, it doesn’t make sense to discuss your other statements.
You found a workflow to run with… enjoy.
jord
Oh, I’m not discovering at all. 😅
I’ve been programming some pretty advanced drum tracks for 2 decades.
It’s just that I’ve been using Logic since 2008 and never used anything else to create tracks.
Suddenly I got sick of dragging notes around to find my tom, snare, etc..
I thought there might be a way to get labels as I do with Logic’s instruments.
So I finally did the effort to ask on a forum.
Thanks for the help.
I guess that’s on me for thinking that you were in the discovery phase, considering that Drummer has been a part of Logic Pro X Since 2013 and some of the other features I mentioned have been around since I started using Logic in its ancestral form back in 1988.
jord
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