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Replied October 29, 2023 at 08:55 #3148209

Mark King
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Midi is messages and not audio. You need to use the bounce feature to get audio.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
Replied October 29, 2023 at 16:16 #3148302

bpjacobsen
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Mark King wrote:

Midi is messages and not audio. You need to use the bounce feature to get audio.

Bounce feature? OK, I will look it up and see if I can find info on how to use this feature. thanks
Replied October 29, 2023 at 22:32 #3148409

bpjacobsen
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So I see that bounce feature creates a a bunch of separate files. How do I get just one file?
Replied October 30, 2023 at 07:55 #3148500

Brad
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bpjacobsen wrote:

So I see that bounce feature creates a a bunch of separate files. How do I get just one file?

Make sure all channels are routed to output 1/2 in the mixer tab. Then when you are in Bounce, select the Advanced tab and select Bounce Output Channels. This will result in everything being written to one stereo audio file.

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Replied October 30, 2023 at 15:27 #3148580

bpjacobsen
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Brad wrote:

bpjacobsen wrote:

So I see that bounce feature creates a a bunch of separate files. How do I get just one file?

Make sure all channels are routed to output 1/2 in the mixer tab. Then when you are in Bounce, select the Advanced tab and select Bounce Output Channels. This will result in everything being written to one stereo audio file.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

I’m still pretty new with this so I may need more direction on how to route the channels to output 1/2. thanks

Replied October 30, 2023 at 16:19 #3148593

Brad
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bpjacobsen wrote:

Brad wrote:

bpjacobsen wrote:

So I see that bounce feature creates a a bunch of separate files. How do I get just one file?

Make sure all channels are routed to output 1/2 in the mixer tab. Then when you are in Bounce, select the Advanced tab and select Bounce Output Channels. This will result in everything being written to one stereo audio file.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

I’m still pretty new with this so I may need more direction on how to route the channels to output 1/2. thanks

In the mixer tab make sure all the channels are routed to Out 1/2 like in the example;

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)
Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)

Replied October 30, 2023 at 16:22 #3148595

Brad
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I have to ask, what ultimately are you wanting to accomplish? Are you just wanting to listen to your drumming or are you wanting to get your drumming into a session/song in a DAW like Reaper, Studio One, Pro Tools, etc?

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)
Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)

Replied October 30, 2023 at 16:37 #3148600

Bear-Faced Cow
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I’m still pretty new with this so I may need more direction on how to route the channels to output 1/2. thanks

I suspect that you were having this issue because you may have routed your outputs in the mixer to multiple output channels. To elaborate what Brad is saying, to you need to a single output channel in order for bounce your audio to one WAV file. The screenshot in Brad’s post illustrates where to do this.

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Replied October 31, 2023 at 01:06 #3148739

bpjacobsen
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Brad wrote:

I have to ask, what ultimately are you wanting to accomplish? Are you just wanting to listen to your drumming or are you wanting to get your drumming into a session/song in a DAW like Reaper, Studio One, Pro Tools, etc?

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

Basically, I Just want to be able to share some Demos of my kits mainly with friends/family. Ideally, I want to setup my phone on a tripod and video me playing AND be able to do like a privately shared youtube video. any other suggestions on best way to do all this are welcome.

Replied October 31, 2023 at 18:49 #3149036

Mark King
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I would use a DAW. Reaper for instance on your computer.

A simple way is to open sd3 as a vst instrument. Have it play through your speakers. Set the DAW recording (this is recording midi)

With your phone setup and recording video do about 4 evenly spaced rim clicks and then play what you want to.

Export the mix from your DAW

Load the video onto your computer and with a video editing program drop the exported audio in with the video and line up the clicks with the video audio. When lined up mute the video audio and save in the format you want it.

If that all sounds too complicated then you can get audio interfaces that will work with phones (mainly apple with iOS but probably android as well). Plug interface into your phone and the output from the computer that is running sd3 into the interface input and record a video with the audio from sd3. Not as good as you can’t really edit it.

I use Cubase and import the video into there and line up the new audio so I don’t need video software. I’m not sure what other DAWs do.

If none of this means anything to you then you have a steep learning curve ahead of you.

SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors

Replied November 1, 2023 at 02:03 #3149237

bpjacobsen
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OK, well, while the 1/2 output suggestion works for getting one file, it also changes the sound a bit. Like it comes out more dry like it drops some of the ambience and other effects. Not all but definitely a noteable difference, so I’m guessing the better option is the DAW which I do need to learn at some point I guess.

Replied November 1, 2023 at 05:09 #3149294

Brad
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bpjacobsen wrote:

OK, well, while the 1/2 output suggestion works for getting one file, it also changes the sound a bit. Like it comes out more dry like it drops some of the ambience and other effects. Not all but definitely a noteable difference, so I’m guessing the better option is the DAW which I do need to learn at some point I guess.

Make sure you have routed all the OH, Ambient and Effects channels to Output 1/2 as well as the microphone channels.

If you provide a mixer screen print we can probably figure out what’s happening.

Is this a custom kit you’ve put together or a SD3 kit and preset? If the latter, which kit and preset?

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)
Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)

Replied November 1, 2023 at 15:40 #3149494

bpjacobsen
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Brad wrote:

bpjacobsen wrote:

OK, well, while the 1/2 output suggestion works for getting one file, it also changes the sound a bit. Like it comes out more dry like it drops some of the ambience and other effects. Not all but definitely a noteable difference, so I’m guessing the better option is the DAW which I do need to learn at some point I guess.

Make sure you have routed all the OH, Ambient and Effects channels to Output 1/2 as well as the microphone channels.

If you provide a mixer screen print we can probably figure out what’s happening.

Is this a custom kit you’ve put together or a SD3 kit and preset? If the latter, which kit and preset?

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

As far as I can tell, all banks are set to output 1/2. But something seems a bit off with the sound. like it’s not picking up all affects. wish I had saved as a different name so I could post a sample of both but didn’t think of that until it was too late.

This is from the ‘Too Much Tape’ preset but I have obviously added a bunch of drums to it and tweaked some of the mixers. and updated the snare a bit for the sound I wanted.

In fact, I changed the kick, snare, hi-hat back to their original output settings and the OH Dyn back to AMB and it brought back the original sounds, or at least closer to what it was before. (see mixer settings3 which shows the ones I changed back) so I must have missed something since the sound is def much dryer when setting them all to 1/2

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Replied November 1, 2023 at 20:36 #3149677

Brad
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bpjacobsen wrote:

Brad wrote:

bpjacobsen wrote:

OK, well, while the 1/2 output suggestion works for getting one file, it also changes the sound a bit. Like it comes out more dry like it drops some of the ambience and other effects. Not all but definitely a noteable difference, so I’m guessing the better option is the DAW which I do need to learn at some point I guess.

Make sure you have routed all the OH, Ambient and Effects channels to Output 1/2 as well as the microphone channels.

If you provide a mixer screen print we can probably figure out what’s happening.

Is this a custom kit you’ve put together or a SD3 kit and preset? If the latter, which kit and preset?

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

As far as I can tell, all banks are set to output 1/2. But something seems a bit off with the sound. like it’s not picking up all affects. wish I had saved as a different name so I could post a sample of both but didn’t think of that until it was too late.

This is from the ‘Too Much Tape’ preset but I have obviously added a bunch of drums to it and tweaked some of the mixers. and updated the snare a bit for the sound I wanted.

In fact, I changed the kick, snare, hi-hat back to their original output settings and the OH Dyn back to AMB and it brought back the original sounds, or at least closer to what it was before. (see mixer settings3 which shows the ones I changed back) so I must have missed something since the sound is def much dryer when setting them all to 1/2

The post has been modified 1 year, 7 months ago by bpjacobsen"> 2 times, last modified 1 year, 7 months ago by bpjacobsen.

I think I see what’s happening now. In my screen print example I was using a very “simple” setup.

The preset you are using has bus channels. Those bus channels should be the ones routed to Output 1/2.

The bus channels in this preset have certain effects on them, which will change the sound of the output. The setup you are showing is bypassing all that processing.

The instrument channels should be routed to the appropriate bus channel. For example;

Channels; Kick-In, Kick-Out and Kick-Sub should be routed to the Bus Channel “Kick”, which in turn is routed to Output 1/2. Same for Snare, Toms, etc, etc….

Hope this makes sense.

Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)
Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)

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Replied November 1, 2023 at 21:39 #3149697

bpjacobsen
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OK, got it now! that was it. The more I play with this, the more I’m starting to understand the mixers better. Now I see that the Mics are routed to the buses and now that I have the buses all routed to output 1/2, I get one file and it has the mixer settings. Yay!

Thanks all for the help. Eventually I hope to start playing with Reaper a bit.

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