Topic: EZ Keys 2 – Midi input channel?

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Replied July 10, 2023 at 06:06 #3114896

Brad
Participant

Hi Bob,

Try Settings > MIDI Input Tab > MIDI in Channel.

EZkeys version: 2.0.1
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)
Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
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Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
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Replied July 10, 2023 at 14:54 #3114979

Glenn Stanton
Participant

hmmmm — no option in either the standalone or DAW for MIDI channel

EZkeys version: 2.0.1
Operating system: Windows 11
Glenn

www.runnel.com
www.reverbnation.com/fossile

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Replied July 10, 2023 at 15:45 #3114993

Billy 86
Participant

Glenn Stanton wrote:

hmmmm — no option in either the standalone or DAW for MIDI channel

EZkeys version: 2.0.1
Operating system: Windows 11

Strange. But yeah. No indication in the manual of that feature. Only difference appears to be Brad’s on a Mac?

SD3, EZD, EZ Keys 1&2, EZ Bass. Win10, i9/9900, all SSDs, 64g RAM, Cakewalk, Studio One

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Replied July 10, 2023 at 17:43 #3115029

Glenn Stanton
Participant

maybe the mac is a different build not released on Windows? or the EZ Keys 2 MIDI library is not the same?

EZkeys version: 2.0.1
Operating system: Windows 11
Glenn

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This post was modified 1 year, 11 months ago by Glenn Stanton.

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Replied July 10, 2023 at 20:35 #3115066

rpm-nj
Participant

Thanks for the response, guys.

Brad – That’s exactly where I looked for the MIDI channel setting, but as Glenn mentioned with his Win version, I have no such option in my OSX version like you do. This is very strange. I’m even more puzzled now….

I confirmed I am running EZK 2.01. I am running OSX 12.6.7.

*** Toontrack Support – Can you please help? ***

– Bob

EZkeys version: 2.0.1
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)
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Replied July 10, 2023 at 22:42 #3115108

Scott
Moderator

I believe that is a feature that will be implemented in an update. Brad’s screenshot isn’t accurate to the currently released version. I do not have an ETA on the update release as is currently being beta tested.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

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Replied July 10, 2023 at 23:14 #3115115

rpm-nj
Participant

Ugh. Ok, appreciate the clarification, Scott.
I’ll add my +1 for this feature being needed ASAP to keep parity with other EZ Line products.

I will gladly be a beta tester for new releases if that’s an option. If so please let me know.

Thanks

Bob

EZkeys version: 2.0.1
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)

Replied July 10, 2023 at 23:41 #3115122

Brad
Participant

Scott wrote:

I believe that is a feature that will be implemented in an update. Brad’s screenshot isn’t accurate to the currently released version. I do not have an ETA on the update release as is currently being beta tested.

Thanks Scott. Was my mistake, I wasn’t working on my production system when I replied. Apologies all around for the confusion.

Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)

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Replied July 11, 2023 at 16:25 #3115293

Bear-Faced Cow
Participant

If you are using EZK2 in your DAW, can you not limit the track to a single MIDI device and channel? Since you are using a Mac, this is pretty standard in CoreAudio. I use this all the time in Logic.

jord

Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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Replied July 11, 2023 at 19:33 #3115346

Glenn Stanton
Participant

my understanding is – yes (in my DAW = Cakewalk) i can set the output target to EZKeys, and even set channel #. however the input of the track is either omni or a specific MIDI input device (keyboard etc). as a result the EZKeys is listening to all channels (i.e. is omni). so all MIDI sources are potentially going to trigger it. one way i can “fake it” is to set the track input to the “virtual keyboard” which (as i’m not using one) will effectively block other sources. but the ideal solution would be to have the virtual instrument (in this case EZKeys) enable channel # selection (and in standalone, the source device(s)).

EZkeys version: 2.0.1
Operating system: Windows 11
Glenn

www.runnel.com
www.reverbnation.com/fossile

Replied July 12, 2023 at 04:13 #3115461

rpm-nj
Participant

Jordan and Glenn – Thanks for the continued discussion on this topic.

Ive been doing some testing based on both your comments, and here is what I’ve found so far.

In my DAW, I can also set the Track output device and channel. See attached. This seems to dictate the data going to the instruments, regardless of the channel of the incoming data from the controller keyboard. However, its seems that EZK responds to messages for ALL DEVICES and ALL CHANNELS. I guess I (mis)understood that “Omni” actually implies “…in the context of THAT instrument.” So while I expected that EZK (any instrument) might respond to all 16 channels for THAT DEVICE, it seems odd to me, that an instrument would respond to data for ALL devices. This could definitely be “user error” on my part! ha!

Maybe I’ve just never come across this scenario before (always learning). But in spite of EZK not (yet – please hurry! 8-\ ) allowing us to specify a channel like EZD does, it seems odd that it responds to other devices’ messages. See my complete results attached. Sorry for the extremely geeky spreadsheet, but Im an engineer, its the way my brain is wired.

Any additional feedback appreciated.

Replied July 12, 2023 at 18:51 #3115622

Glenn Stanton
Participant

so in my scenario, i tested:

EZKey MIDI –> EZKey VI

MIDI – none/omni – all devices and active MIDI tracks trigger

MIDI – set to specific EZKey Ch 1 (or any other ch) = same as before

MIDI – set to specific Komplete (or M-Audio) keyboard device = only that device triggers it – on any channel though

MIDI – set to virtual keyboard input, only EZKey MIDI triggers it, on any channel set in the track

so i can (in Cakewalk) use the virtual keyboard trick to block everything except the EZKey MIDI track to trigger — but — EKey does respond on any channel set on that track (which is different than say Kontakt which respects the channel settings per instrument etc).

EZkeys version: 2.0.1
Operating system: Windows 11
Glenn

www.runnel.com
www.reverbnation.com/fossile

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Replied July 12, 2023 at 19:07 #3115632

rpm-nj
Participant

Glenn – you raise a good point when you’ve mentioned that the virtual keyboard “filters” the incoming MIDI.

Does anyone know of a MIDI utility plug-in, that allows MIDI data filtering/editing? Studio One has a MIDI filter but it only filters key ranges/notes. I’m wondering if there are any advanced utilities out there that will, for instance, filter all MIDI data on specific channels, or “translate” incoming data to a specific channel, etc. Seems like a MIDI Swiss Army knife would be a pretty straight-forward tool to create, and I can’t imagine I’m the first to need something like this. Any one have any ideas? Im gonna do some more searching.

Replied July 12, 2023 at 21:33 #3115687

Glenn Stanton
Participant

Bome MIDI or MIDI-OX

MIDI Translator Pro – Bome Software (i think Windows only)

MIDIOX (i think also Windows)

EZkeys version: 2.0.1
Operating system: Windows 11
Glenn

www.runnel.com
www.reverbnation.com/fossile

This post was modified 1 year, 11 months ago by Glenn Stanton.

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Replied July 15, 2023 at 18:58 #3116573

rpm-nj
Participant

“I believe that is a feature that will be implemented in an update. Brad’s screenshot isn’t accurate to the currently released version. I do not have an ETA on the update release as is currently being beta tested.”

@Scott – I understand you may have limited ability to discuss too much detail about upcoming releases, but can you please confirm that a user-selectable MIDI Input channel, is definitely in the short-term roadmap for EZK? I just downloaded a demo of EZBass, and unfortunately I see the same missing feature there, so I’d really like to know about EZB also, before I can commit to that product. Is the feature in the short-term roadmap for EZB too?

I don’t mean to press you on this, but I’m just trying to determine whether I need to help “fight” for this important feature by submitting feature requests for BOTH products, or whether this is a known-shortcoming and already being planned in upcoming patches/maintenance releases of both products. I’m honestly surprised this feature is missing in the big release of EZK2, and so I’m a little worried that EZK and EZB may not fit my needs without cumbersome workarounds, unless this feature is added. Selectable MIDI input channel will make EZK and EZB consistent with EZD, and greatly improve the flexibility and workflow options for both products.

Any additional info MOST appreciated.

Thank you!
Bob

EZkeys version: 2.0.1
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)
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