Patrick_by_the_seaI’ve just dropped a pre-chorus section from my song from EZKeys2 to EZBass. The section is a change of key, so the song is in C and I’ve moved to Gm for the Pre Chorus/Chorus. EZKeys2 has a Key Signature Editor but I can’t see it in EZB so my Bass section has switched automatically back to C. Hmmm …. disappointing.
I appreciate this must be hellishly complicated to program but between the lack key changes and extended chords it looks as if EZB is a little restricted in its application….. unless of course there are work arounds?
All the best.
Patrick.
Kevin MulvihillI concur. I need to change keys for different parts in a song. The only option seems to be Song Key but that is global only. If I just transpose down, EZB keeps the chords aligned with the earlier song key and everything gets messed up. Would be great to have a solution for modulating keys. Support for extended chords would also be highly useful. If you just gave us these two features, it would be a huge upgrade…
Billy 86The only workaround I can think of is a second instance of EBZ set to the new key that would take over for that new key section before returning to the EZB playing in the original key. Kind of a handoff and handback situation. Not ideal, but…
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JohnHi guys,
this seems like a good example of a feature request you should post about in the ‘Requests & Feedback ‘section; a Key Signature Editor in EZbass like the one in EZkeys 2.
BR,
John
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Glenn Stantoni found that each track can have it’s own key assigned. so track one (in example) is C Major and track two is A Minor. export – two separate files (Etc) but then join them up in the DAW.
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soundsgoodI think my goals are partially different, but I’m hoping one of you may have a solution:
Instead of transposing a section of a song in EZbass, I first need to transpose the entire song. I’ve got all of this fancy programming inside the plug-in (and this is my first time working this way (with MIDI in my DAW, this would be a no-brainer). So, I have all of these chords specified (in one key), but I now need to change the key of everything in the project (so far).
How do I do that without having to select every chord in the song and changing it manually?
Then, secondly, I will ultimately need to duplicate this verse and chorus, then change the key of their second iteration (and again for their third iteration). How does one do this in EZbass? I’m on a deadline and desperately need to make this happen. Is it possible?
UPDATE: I discovered I can select the notes in the grid editor and drag them to a new key, but now the chord names are wrong. I’m not sure what effect this may have yet (Again, I’m new to working in the built-in grid), but it bugs the hell out of me that the displayed chords are wrong. Surely there’s a way to transpose all selected chords, no?
Glenn Stantonon the song key selection the main list shifts the key, on the bottom is an option for no transpose. this affects the entire track. which for a single track project is the entire song. each track can have different keys.
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soundsgoodon the song key selection the main list shifts the key, on the bottom is an option for no transpose. this affects the entire track. which for a single track project is the entire song. each track can have different keys.
I’m grateful for your reply. I’m just trying to understand how to apply it to my project.
I found the “Song Key” menu at the very bottom of the window. I was unaware of it before now. When I change it, all of the existing notes in my project change. So, that’s not going to work at the moment. I gather one should set the key here at the start of a project. I see the “No transpose” option, but it’s not clear to me what that does. Can you elaborate?
That said, back to my original inquiry, it’s still unclear how I can change the key, as needed, within a song. If the “Song Key” applies to the entire song, it seems I cannot change keys.
Lastly, you said, “Each track can have different keys.” Are you suggesting that if I need key changes within a song, I should use a different track for each section that requires a different key?
Thanks again. I look forward to your clarification.
UPDATE: I just watched a Toontrack video on YouTube that clarified this (at least somewhat). It states:
“If you record a bass line before selecting the correct key, you can easily change the song key by selecting one of the no-transpose options. This will change the key of the song track, but it will not alter the MIDI on the song track.
If, however, you want to transpose the MIDI on the song track, select one of the standard options.”
It seems to me the “No transpose” feature is poorly named, because we’re clearly transposing. Perhaps it should have been named, “No MIDI Transpose.”
I don’t want to mess with my current song, because I’ve gotten it into a playable state (although the displayed chords are incorrect). Perhaps I can approach this differently on the next song and figure out how the “Song Key” and chord-transpose features work. They certainly are not intuitive.
Glenn Stantonchanging keys in a song with EZB within a track is not currently an option (using a key change setting like in EZK). so i’ve found the only two ways to do it – one is to create a new track with a new key (and as a note i tend to always set the BPM and key and meter before i start adding the chords and midi on a new project), or simply write out the chords i nthe new key (manual / mental work plus i’m not sure if the replace MIDI using the grooves would behave the same as having a new key set – i guess you could compare across tracks).
Glenn
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d gavThanks for tip. So it looks like you can’t play one track in one key, and then switch to another track in another key and switch back to track 1 in the same instance? You export each track version and join them up in DAW?
Glenn Stantonyes, they’re joined in the DAW. EZB definitely needs some love to get it up to speed with EZK (like being able to sync chord changes would be nice… as well as key changes etc)
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