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So I’m unfortunately used to Cubase (which I’ve actually stopped using) where I can set velocities and THEN set the hit, is there a way to do that in SDX?
All the extra velocity adjustment is great and all, but to me it’s going over trodden ground…
I have found the keyboard shortcuts… (increase/decrease is all we’re getting for now it seems)
Also for anyone else who finds this, I have already submitted a feature request to have preset values for velocities available e.g. 127, 110, 90, 35, etc…
EDIT: for anyone else reading this thread, fair warning this is where useful information ends… the rest is just us talking about Cubase.
I’m not sure what you mean?
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
What are you using to input your midi data?
Cheers Ken
SD 3.3.6 on Windows 10 | Cubase 11 Pro DAW
expansions : N.Y.Avitar | Latin percussion
Yamaha multi 12 | DTX 450k | Trigger IO (x2)
Super stupid fast computer with i9 and 18 speed double clutch gearbox
5. Audio interfaces.
Setting velocity to a certain value, so that when I apply a hit, it is at that value. Like in Cubase which, although is a shockingly shit DAW, their drum editor is really good.
Ive used Cubase since the Atari and totally disagree with your remark. I think it’s a fantastic DAW
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
I wouldn’t normally say this but I can confidently say you’re mistaken, Cubase is an objectively bad piece of software for human use. Group tracks and something or other bla bla yuck… disgusting… I’ve actually submitted for a refund it’s that bad. I could write a thesis on how utterly crap Cubase is and how useless Steinberg are at developing human-usable software. I’m astonished they’re still in business.
With respect, the fact that you have used it “since Atari” is not surprising. It seems to be a DAW for boomers, no offense.
Using Cubase is kind of like saying you use Powershell coz it’s “super powerful” … I mean it is, but I’ll be gd’d if it isn’t the most unnecessary language.
I’ve tried others including pro tools and none are as powerful. Anyway that’s your personal opinion and I replied as there are always two sides to a story and you are definitely mistaken. You can’t put it down to my generation either as I know from experience with my sons generation that they are a lot less tech savvy. Yes they can play on phones all day but can’t work anything techy out themselves.
Someone has to defend a great program when someone comes out with such negative remarks about the software and my generation.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
You misunderstand me, I can agree it’s extremely powerful just not usable. Unfortunately this renders it ultimately useless and there are countless other examples of this scenario. Linux is another great example. I used Arch for ten years, as a daily, then rage quit and bought a Mac. PowerShell is another one, extremely powerful but unnecessary complicated.
My test for usable and intuitive products is this: if you can’t sit down and start without looking at a manual, and you can’t intuitively navigate most cases, only stopping to look for something here and there, then that is a failure of product development. I’ll give exception to a short intro video that should be no more than 5 mins, but you should know enough to heuristically extrapolate from there. Cubase fails spectacularly in this last one, as does Reaper and Ardour for that matter.
Like I said I mean no disrespect, but my experience in the forums showed me that its mostly older people using Cubase. Those within that generation who adopted technology seem to approach technology in much the same way, this is least reflected in the Cubase docs which are un-Google-able but that doesn’t seem to be a problem for most older users. Steinberg’s SEO is not setup properly so that answers are present when searching (or indeed point you to the right version of docs) and there is no label as to the version of documentation for any DAW. That alone is some schoolboy level nonsense, even obscure C libraries do better, but I suppose Steingerb understand their audience’s needs and lean into that need.
When I submitted this complaint, Steingerb acted as if it was the first time anyone had ever suggested it… my mind was figuratively, metaphorically, and astro-physically blown.
The level of intuitive usability one needs to operate in a professional setting is unfortunately lacking in Cubase, they simply do things the “wrong” way. That is to say there is a much better way and an entire industry of established professionals to handle this usability problem (UX), which I can only surmise flourished long after Steingerb became an established company and therefore they did not adopt those principles… or it’s just a German thing (see: SAP), who knows… like I said, I could probably write a short thesis on all of the problems with Cubase. I do not mean that figuratively.
What’s worse is when you question this on the forums, the only response is a resounding groan without any kind of discussion or room for growth. A collection of Luddites that aren’t capable of arguing a case against sane and well reasoned criticism.
Also I think it’s disingenuous to say it’s just my personal opinion, that is a lazy rejection of something we can easily prove in the wild. Why is Cubase not used more widely? Why is it not used in a live setting as a preference to Ableton? Sure it works for some, but I would be curious as to just how sophisticated those users are in their daily lives and the overall applicability of their opinion to more professional situations.
Do they also use an abacus when an electronic calculator is at the ready? Do they also think the Imperial system is better than the Metric? You can teach a person to eat using their feet, that doesn’t mean the philosophy behind using their hands has no obvious benefit. Sure eating with your feet is an amazing feat (nice), but does that person have no arms? How long does it take them to eat with their feet? Not to say eating with your feet is invalid, but that we are operating under completely different criteria and one person’s needs do not suit another.
The subtext being that all needs are then somehow equal, I reject this notion. There were better Generals of war, better technologists, better academics and researchers. Somewhere in there, a difference means a difference in quality and competence.
Unless you have no arms.
Every person I have ever introduced to Cubase has found it overly difficult to understand and use. This ranges from industry professionals all the way down to amateur musicians who, as you say, are not always tech savvy. To those musicians I now advise Logic
Now for the record, I think most DAWs are trash and most product owners/developers have a special place in hell. Ableton, Studio One, and Pro Tools got it right… but even then, Avid have their head firmly implanted in their collective rectum.
The way I see Cubase is kind of like the Windows of DAWs: clunky, backed by an archaic organization that is too big to support it’s own weight (also Avid), and the solutions to problems are more frustrating than the problems themselves.
If you enjoy using it then more power to you, but you are the minority and not for the reasons you might suspect.
Some ridiculous answers and assumptions. You come on and moan more about software nothing to do with sd3 and then have a go at someone you know nothing about because I think differently to you about Cubase which is one of the most used DAWs. The others are not as powerful full stop.
Anyway I’m out of here.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
Dude, I mean like you asked… it was an inane comment about, as you rightly put, something unrelated to SDX. Maybe don’t engage with someone if you don’t want to hear what they have to say?
I never had a go at you, but you seem to be taking this way too personally… more to my point really. Maybe Cubase is the Windows of DAWs, but the users behave like the *BSD of DAWs hahaha
I agree, it’s more powerful but it’s power is neutered by its interface. That’s more than a reasonable criticism that is WIDELY shared.
LOL all DAWs are the most used DAWs these days, that’s how the ubiquity of technology works friend. Surprisingly though, I’ve heard Cubase is used more widely in Europe compared to Ableton.
Ah well, what a waste. Better luck next time!
In Mark’s defense,
Cubase was the First commercially available DAW to the public and at that time only ran on Mac. It Is what was copied by all other DAW software companies and if you dig deep enough you will find in your screen cluttered mess every element is copied from Cubase. They took their visual elements form actual hardware and created a computer software that emulated that hardware.
And yes we are off topic.
For that I will apologize to all the Toontrack members.
I drive an air-conditioned fully loaded Van (Cubase) to get to where I’m going. If one chooses to drive a tricycle, have fun with that.
Cheers Ken
SD 3.3.6 on Windows 10 | Cubase 11 Pro DAW
expansions : N.Y.Avitar | Latin percussion
Yamaha multi 12 | DTX 450k | Trigger IO (x2)
Super stupid fast computer with i9 and 18 speed double clutch gearbox
5. Audio interfaces.
Yes apologies to Toontrack community, we’ll be done soon I’m sure…
“Your screen cluttered mess” hahaha classic
Loaded van vs a tricycle, there it is again… this claim that Cubase is jam-packed full of features. I’m not going to debate that coz it probably is, but it’s like saying you have the best control panel in the world, it can do so much, but you have one knob to control it all.
Ok ok ok… so let’s get serious for a second, I’m genuinely curious what these features are because from what I gather they seem more relevant for midi based composers? Or a version of audio professional from another era, at the least one that isn’t relevant to me as a professional.
My gripes to be specific are the interface, the routing philosophy, and the some of the midi editing features… like when I go to extend a clip it actually stretches it instead (which I never figured out).
By the by… here is an entire thread of ppl claiming its “amazing and has so much” and “is simply the best for REAL professionals” and then the thread devolves into naming all the issues with it… https://forums.steinberg.net/t/why-cubase-lags-behind-other-daws-or-does-it/126730
I saw the same thing in the Linux community for a decade: it’s super great and its the lowly pathetic disgusting user’s fault if they don’t know better, coz we are the REAL technologists etc etc..
Are you 5 year old?
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
All I hear is butt-hurt Cubase users that won’t answer a simple question or make a case… all just hand-wavy elitism…
What a waste. Anyway let’s end this here, I’m clearly not going to get a reasonable engagement.
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