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I have a very hard time setting up SD3 with my Roland TD27KV kit. My kit is not standard anymore, I added a 4th PDX-100 pad, a CY-5 cymbal, a BT-1 trigger and swapped the VH10 for a VH14 hi hat.
After some tweaking the TD27 module and all pads work just fine. Everything is triggered correct, no cross talk, open/half open/close of the hi hat is controlled, all sorts of rim shots are present (snare and toms), and so on.
Not so when inviting SD3 to the party. When selecting the TD27 in Settings —> MIDI In/E-Drums only the kick and the snare are triggered correct (including all rim shots). Rack tom 1 and floor tom 1 are there but without rim shots. Also one cymbal is there but only with the bow trigger and not the edge trigger.
Setting it up manually is an absolute pain in the ass. The UX is complex and far from user friendly, the learn-mode in ‘MIDI In/E-Drums’ switches itself to off the moment a pad is triggered and has to be engaged a couple of times before the trigger is registered. With every custom drum kit this whole process has to be re-done? That would be OK-ish, however, most of the time the setup is not saved correctly. On reopening most of the pad-sample combinations in the drum kit are gone… Which is absolutely frustrating!
I’ve tried multiple USB cables, went back to the TD27 factory settings, connected the TD27 directly to my mac, running SD3 stand alone (not in Logic), according the MIDI Monitor the data is flowing when the pad is triggered, in short; I’ve tried everything I could think of.
Why can’t SD3 ‘read’, or record when played, the TD27 (or whatever drum module), collect all ID’s and accompanying info (pad, rim, edge, bow, bell, open/close, etc) of all connected pads/triggers and use that to let me assign the pads to the corresponding instruments/samples? In the end it’s all plain MIDI data!
Hi there
I have a similar situation running superior drummer using Yamaha and trigger IO modules
basically I reprogrammed the trigger I/O module to match the midi settings in SD3 and in superior drummer set the main input device as the Yamaha device.
For the nine added devices to my kit I run them all through the trigger I/O. Only the snare hi hat and kick drum go through the Yamaha. And I get all my three zones on my snare etc.
Cheers Ken
SD 3.3.6 on Windows 10 | Cubase 11
And a new Apple air laptop OS 15.5
Also in superior drummer I have to select both the Yamaha and the trigger I owe as the midi input devices.
Cheers Ken
SD 3.3.6 on Windows 10 | Cubase 11
And a new Apple air laptop OS 15.5
I have a very hard time setting up SD3 with my Roland TD27KV kit. My kit is not standard anymore, I added a 4th PDX-100 pad, a CY-5 cymbal, a BT-1 trigger and swapped the VH10 for a VH14 hi hat.
After some tweaking the TD27 module and all pads work just fine. Everything is triggered correct, no cross talk, open/half open/close of the hi hat is controlled, all sorts of rim shots are present (snare and toms), and so on.
Not so when inviting SD3 to the party. When selecting the TD27 in Settings —> MIDI In/E-Drums only the kick and the snare are triggered correct (including all rim shots). Rack tom 1 and floor tom 1 are there but without rim shots. Also one cymbal is there but only with the bow trigger and not the edge trigger.
Setting it up manually is an absolute pain in the ass. The UX is complex and far from user friendly, the learn-mode in ‘MIDI In/E-Drums’ switches itself to off the moment a pad is triggered and has to be engaged a couple of times before the trigger is registered. With every custom drum kit this whole process has to be re-done? That would be OK-ish, however, most of the time the setup is not saved correctly. On reopening most of the pad-sample combinations in the drum kit are gone… Which is absolutely frustrating!
I’ve tried multiple USB cables, went back to the TD27 factory settings, connected the TD27 directly to my mac, running SD3 stand alone (not in Logic), according the MIDI Monitor the data is flowing when the pad is triggered, in short; I’ve tried everything I could think of.
Why can’t SD3 ‘read’, or record when played, the TD27 (or whatever drum module), collect all ID’s and accompanying info (pad, rim, edge, bow, bell, open/close, etc) of all connected pads/triggers and use that to let me assign the pads to the corresponding instruments/samples? In the end it’s all plain MIDI data!
Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.3
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)
- This post was modified 2 years, 9 months ago by Martin van der Linden.
When you say the MIDI monitor shows data is that the internal one in SD3? What I often suggest for MIDI issues is to download the snoize MIDI monitor utility and run it standalone. It will not only show that data is flowing but also will show you exactly what data is coming in. That way you can verify that your modules is sending the data you think it should.
Maybe try re-arranging the USB connection to your computer if you have any other USB connections. Do you have things plugged into a hub or chained together?
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
I choose my td30 preset then I just list my notes from my td30 module and then manually set the ones that are incorrect. I have fully used all my trigger inputs. I did however find the td30 preset worked with the default kit setup so I only had to do the extra cymbals and toms and my bt1. I then save my preset. I have created a few as it’s not always the same for different packs. I don’t use learn as it’s too easy to trigger a rim or centre accidentally when you don’t want to.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
Thanx. I use SD3 MIDI monitor and Snoize MIDI monitor.
And they’re telling you the same thing? Not good looking on the part of Toontrack.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.0
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
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