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Since Toontrack products (excluding ezmix) never output mono signals with it’s routing options, when it comes to EZBass, is it Dual Mono or is this actually a Stereo signal.
Is the left and right channel identical, or is there some sort of stereo room tone or processing happening.
Thanks!
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Hi,
when you just use the Stereo out, it’s a mix of the sources so it’s a Stereo signal.
When you Enable the Multi-Out, the Effects chain Defaults to 1-2 (Stereo), the Bass DI to 3-4 (Mono) and the Sub Bass to 5-6 (Mono).
The configuration of the Toontrack Samplers are a fixed number of Stereo Outputs (which can be split into mono, depending on your host) but the Mono signals are simply panned in the center of the Stereo Output, if you pan hard left or hard right in e.g. EZdrummer 2, the signal disappears in the other channel. A Dual Mono configuration would mean that the exact same Mono signal would be duplicated to both channels.
BR,
John
John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor
It’s a bummer I missed this reply. Thank you, John.
I’m talking about the Stereo Out, not the Multi.
Whether you’re sending 1 or 100 mono sources panned up the middle out of a stereo track, is that not dual mono? If the answer is yes, is EZBass Dual Mono?
“when you just use the Stereo out, it’s a mix of the sources so it’s a Stereo signal.”
This doesn’t answer my original question as to whether EZBass is sending identical information out the left and right channel at the same time. If it is, that is Dual Mono I believe.
Let me know if I’m confused, please. I must be at this point. Thank you, John.
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Hi Shootie,
sorry for the delay.
The short answer to your question “Is the left and right channel identical?”(using Stereo Out only) is ‘No’.
But the slightly longer answer is ‘it depends’.
The even longer answer would be:
If you pick a ‘DI’ preset and split the outputs from the EZbass track, then phase invert one of them, they will almost cancel fully (you won’t hear much but it can be measured).
Depending on which “dry” preset you select, this will more or less happen on all of them but as soon as you pick a preset with an effect like chorus, amp/dist (some), room, delay, etc. you will hear both channels.
If you ask me if sending a true Mono signal panned in the middle of a Stereo Output path is the same as Dual Mono, I would say no but that may be related to me working a lot in the post/TV section of the industry in my corner of the world for the last 20 yrs or so and when I have delivered sound to picture, Dual Mono is 2 channels that may be identical (sometimes not, actually- same sound but e.g. different narrator language on the 2 Mono mixes) but each channel meeting the specs set for peaks and loudness.
E.g. a Mono signal panned center in a Stereo channel with a loudness at -22,5 LUFS will, if split, have 2 channels each at about -3dB’s lower loudness if each is measured separately. Routing both the split channels to a Stereo channel with no panning will result in an approximately +3dB louder than the original Mono panned in the center signal. Well, at least in a 3dB panning law environment but that’s a different story.
So, that’s why for me Dual Mono is something different than panning a Mono signal center across a Stereo Output.
It does feel a bit like splitting hairs, though😉
BR,
John
John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor
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Thanked by: ShootieJohn, thank you.
In case anyone is as interested in this as I am. I agree, dual mono doesn’t have to be cloned channels. Coming from a less elite video background, it could simply be a lav mic on the left and a boom on the right, you tell you post software it’s Dual Mono, and you get what you need in post. Stereo is incorrect in this case.
I appreciate you splitting hairs on this. I interpret it as, unless I’m using a DI preset, the stereo signal is quite valid. And enough info for me to stop wondering every time I load it up.
Thanks so much for your energy on this!
-Shawn
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