MBI (Ian)Newbie here. Coming from SSD5.5
What I like to do is mix everything in my DAW (Reaper fwiw). So with SSD5.5 I set up a template in Reaper and used the multi out option. (Aside: There’s a knowni bug SSD5.5 with multi routing they’ve acknowledged with the routing default to 1&2 when changing kits)
I’d like to make up a template in Reaper for SD3 then also have a global multi outmout preset in SD3 sotso no matter what kit i used (I’ve only got Core and Hansa at moment) that the multi outs were the same channels. Eg 1/2 kick 3/4 snare top 5/6 snare bottom 7/8 high hat etc and I’d use higher numbers for room mics eg 30/31 for OH etc. Doesn’t actually matter too much what they are exactly as long as I can change kits and then either apply a mixer or lock the mixer so that the routing doesn’t change so that it aligns with my template in Reaper. I realise not all kits will have all the components. That’s fine. I don’t mind gaps.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Nb Would be even better if the mono mics could go out on 1 channel to give more usable channels. But that’s secondary. I guess i could pan etc. But that would be dependent on being able to lock the mixer.
Edit. I guess I can just build my own kit and then change sounds as required and save as. But I’d like a quick easy way of auditioning kits using the multi out method..
All hints and tips welcome. Including RTFM
Thanks in advance
monospaceEdit. I guess I can just build my own kit and then change sounds as required and save as.
That’s how I have been doing it. Even in standalone. My audio interface has 8 output channels, and I use 1&2 for my main monitor, and 3&4 for my headphone mix. I’ve set up bussing to make this work, and it turns out it’s just easier/quicker to replace drums and cymbals rather than recreating my routings every time.
Another benefit is that this way you can create a mixer template with bleeds, panning, EQs, compressors and other miscellaneous processing and just load in the instruments you like, tweak it a bit, then save it as a user preset.
E-drummer. eDrumIn trigger interface with various Roland trigger pads. MacBook Pro (mid-2015); MacOS High Sierra; Logic Pro X 10.4.8. Superior Drummer user since 2009.
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Thanked by: MBI (Ian)MBI (Ian)Edit. I guess I can just build my own kit and then change sounds as required and save as.
That’s how I have been doing it. Even in standalone. My audio interface has 8 output channels, and I use 1&2 for my main monitor, and 3&4 for my headphone mix. I’ve set up bussing to make this work, and it turns out it’s just easier/quicker to replace drums and cymbals rather than recreating my routings every time.
Another benefit is that this way you can create a mixer template with bleeds, panning, EQs, compressors and other miscellaneous processing and just load in the instruments you like, tweak it a bit, then save it as a user preset.
Thank you.
What kit did you start from?
Or should i ask, what would be the best starting kit to use. i.e the one with the most instruments and mics etc? The Neil Peart kit 🙂
monospaceAny kit that has all the instrument slots loaded would be a good starting point.
My personal favorite is the Premier Genista, but that doesn’t have a Tom 3. You could load in one from another kit, though. I didn’t bother since my physical edrum setup has one racktom and two floortoms. I first spend a good amount of time getting my triggering and velocity mappings just right. Second, I enable bleed on all microphones and only use the near room mics, which gives me the most realistic sounding experience from a drummer’s perspective. I then create busses for kick, snare, hats, and toms, and route those to the outputs I need.
Stuff like EQ and compression is added on a per-kit basis, as needed or desired, when I swap out kit pieces. I then save those configurations as user presets, all based on my initial setup.
Of course, if my physical situation ever changes (say I add a new trigger pad or a different audio interface) I would need to update all my user kits, or start over, but in the absence of a global config option this still is the most efficient method for me.
E-drummer. eDrumIn trigger interface with various Roland trigger pads. MacBook Pro (mid-2015); MacOS High Sierra; Logic Pro X 10.4.8. Superior Drummer user since 2009.
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Thanked by: MBI (Ian)MBI (Ian)Any kit that has all the instrument slots loaded would be a good starting point.
My personal favorite is the Premier Genista, but that doesn’t have a Tom 3. You could load in one from another kit, though. I didn’t bother since my physical edrum setup has one racktom and two floortoms. I first spend a good amount of time getting my triggering and velocity mappings just right. Second, I enable bleed on all microphones and only use the near room mics, which gives me the most realistic sounding experience from a drummer’s perspective. I then create busses for kick, snare, hats, and toms, and route those to the outputs I need.
Stuff like EQ and compression is added on a per-kit basis, as needed or desired, when I swap out kit pieces. I then save those configurations as user presets, all based on my initial setup.
Of course, if my physical situation ever changes (say I add a new trigger pad or a different audio interface) I would need to update all my user kits, or start over, but in the absence of a global config option this still is the most efficient method for me.
Thanks i think i have a bit of work ahead of me 🙂 But at least i know that’s the way to do it! And i’m not doing something stupid as per usual!
monospaceI do agree that what you’re suggesting is eminently reasonable. I tend to play mostly with my own presets, and barely touch the ones that came with the program because when I do I need to re-route everything. That’s a shame because there’s some good stuff there to play and to study. It’s just too much of a bother most of the time. A global config, even if you could only “lock” your main outputs, would be very useful.
E-drummer. eDrumIn trigger interface with various Roland trigger pads. MacBook Pro (mid-2015); MacOS High Sierra; Logic Pro X 10.4.8. Superior Drummer user since 2009.
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