Andrew PayneHi,
I know how to use Soft curve to smooth out a velocity curve (3.4.6 in manual) but cannot see how to do this in MIDI In/E-Drums mode (9.3.7). I use an electronic kit to trigger SD3 and want to smooth out the velocity curve I have tailored for my snare drum(s).
Is there a way I can do this. There is nothing in manual under 9.3.7 “Edit MIDI Mapping and Response, Velocity Tab” to show how to do this.
Also I was wondering if there is any way to make property box changes so only certain velocity levels in articulations are affected. I have a great snare sound however at 127 velocity it becomes too harsh (too much attack and no sustain – but output volume is OK) yet at all other velocities it is great. If I adjust attack (either through transient effect, EQ or envelope/offset) then it affects sounds at all velocities. Should I be using velocity gate or curve and if so how do I still maintain the loudness of the snare at velocity 127 without the “harshness” ? I am still learning how to programme sounds but enjoying the process and how great the sounds are in SD3.
Thanks,
Dell Precision 7730, i7 6 Core 2.6 GHz, 128GB RAM, 1TB SSD and 3 x 2TB SSD, Windows 11, Cubase Pro 14, SD3 plus a variety of SDX's and EZX's, Orchestral Percussion, EZBASS, RME BabyFace Pro FS and KRK V4 monitors. Modified Yamaha DTX900, DTXPRESS4 and Edrumin10 triggering SD3. Yamaha pads/cymbals and Roland VH-10 HiHat. PDP Maple acoustic kit for live playing.
Bear-Faced CowThe simplest way I’ve found is to save a curved preset and then load it in the MIDI/E-drum. It seems to hold the curve.
But yes, it would be more helpful to have that ability throughout… hopeful for implementation in a future revision.
jord
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Thanked by: barrychesterman, monospace and Andrew PayneAndrew PayneThanks Jord,
That works perfectly. cheers, Andrew
Dell Precision 7730, i7 6 Core 2.6 GHz, 128GB RAM, 1TB SSD and 3 x 2TB SSD, Windows 11, Cubase Pro 14, SD3 plus a variety of SDX's and EZX's, Orchestral Percussion, EZBASS, RME BabyFace Pro FS and KRK V4 monitors. Modified Yamaha DTX900, DTXPRESS4 and Edrumin10 triggering SD3. Yamaha pads/cymbals and Roland VH-10 HiHat. PDP Maple acoustic kit for live playing.
Andrew PayneHello Jord,
I have been doing this as you suggested and have saved a curved preset on the snare channel, however each time I exit and come back in, the preset disappears in the MIDI In/E-Drums section and it goes back to the “straight” velocity curve. I have to reload the “curved” preset again each time.
Is there any way that the “curved” preset can be saved in the MIDI In/E-Drums ?
thanks, Andrew
Dell Precision 7730, i7 6 Core 2.6 GHz, 128GB RAM, 1TB SSD and 3 x 2TB SSD, Windows 11, Cubase Pro 14, SD3 plus a variety of SDX's and EZX's, Orchestral Percussion, EZBASS, RME BabyFace Pro FS and KRK V4 monitors. Modified Yamaha DTX900, DTXPRESS4 and Edrumin10 triggering SD3. Yamaha pads/cymbals and Roland VH-10 HiHat. PDP Maple acoustic kit for live playing.
Andrew PayneYeah I saved as a MIDI In/E-Drums preset and also saved as a project but it still does not keep the smooth curve and I have to reload the saved (smooth) velocity curve preset each time. This still “works” but not an ideal outcome and a bit frustrating.
It doesnt look like the MIDI In/E-Drums is saving this ? thanks, Andrew
Dell Precision 7730, i7 6 Core 2.6 GHz, 128GB RAM, 1TB SSD and 3 x 2TB SSD, Windows 11, Cubase Pro 14, SD3 plus a variety of SDX's and EZX's, Orchestral Percussion, EZBASS, RME BabyFace Pro FS and KRK V4 monitors. Modified Yamaha DTX900, DTXPRESS4 and Edrumin10 triggering SD3. Yamaha pads/cymbals and Roland VH-10 HiHat. PDP Maple acoustic kit for live playing.
Andrew PayneI did a “workaround” in the MIDI In/E-Drums settings and actually created a velocity “curve” with straight lines but with lots of points so it “smooths” it out – although not quite as good as smooth curve. This curve does then stay saved in my MIDI In/E-Drums setttings and pretty much gives me what I am after – I like soft and smooth ghost notes notes for low velocities and then a steep gradient to the higher velocity louder hits on my snare.
Can anyone from Toontrack condirm if this is the only way to achieve this or is there something else I am doing incorrectly. cheers, Andrew
Dell Precision 7730, i7 6 Core 2.6 GHz, 128GB RAM, 1TB SSD and 3 x 2TB SSD, Windows 11, Cubase Pro 14, SD3 plus a variety of SDX's and EZX's, Orchestral Percussion, EZBASS, RME BabyFace Pro FS and KRK V4 monitors. Modified Yamaha DTX900, DTXPRESS4 and Edrumin10 triggering SD3. Yamaha pads/cymbals and Roland VH-10 HiHat. PDP Maple acoustic kit for live playing.
monospaceAlso I was wondering if there is any way to make property box changes so only certain velocity levels in articulations are affected.
In Midi in/Edrums setting you can just edit the velocity curve for the currently selected articulation, but the property box on the Drum tab seems to affect the entire selected instrument. I agree that it would be great if this was more consistent.
E-drummer. eDrumIn trigger interface with various Roland trigger pads. MacBook Pro (mid-2015); MacOS High Sierra; Logic Pro X 10.4.8. Superior Drummer user since 2009.
howmuchartAny updates on this? This thread is 5 years old now, and it seems like you still can’t make soft curves while editing the velocity curve in the MIDI section. I’m wondering if this is intentional? I’m new to all this stuff, so perhaps a soft curve is unnecessary for the MIDI section?
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