Topic: Follow Host doesn't change bpm

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Replied May 22, 2020 at 08:55 #2583013

Henrik Ekblom
Participant

So, you started out with 120 in Studio One, and had Follow Host enabled – so EZbass was also 120 BPM. Then you changed the BPM in Studio One to 103, but EZbass stayed at 120 BPM?

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack
Replied May 22, 2020 at 09:37 #2583024

Erik
Participant

Hey Michael,

I think maybe I understand since you mention SD3 and EZdrummer: The song track tempo and audio tracker tempo are not locked to each other. It’s the tempo in Audio Tracker which doesn’t follow your DAW, right?

The audio tracker is designed to track any audio source, not just those of the same tempo as what your DAW or song track is set to. This way you can track an entirely different bass line in its own tempo and then when you add it to your song track it’ll work properly with the song track tempo, with correct note values even though it was tracked in another tempo.

After finishing tracking or when adding audio, in the “Tracker Session Setup” dialog you’re asked to set the tempo. By default it is set to 120 BPM, but we should probably have a look at making EZbass select the “Current Tempo in [DAW]” by default when tracking through Audio Sender.

After closing the setup dialog, you can change the tempo of the track manually in the transport bar to match the source tempo better. This does not affect the tempo of the song track (the audio tracker transport bar is separate from the song track transport bar).

Erik Berglund — Toontrack
Replied May 22, 2020 at 18:00 #2583282

Michael Marton
Participant

Henrik Ekblom wrote:

So, you started out with 120 in Studio One, and had Follow Host enabled – so EZbass was also 120 BPM. Then you changed the BPM in Studio One to 103, but EZbass stayed at 120 BPM?

No I inserted EZB in a project that had a tempo of 103, EZB stayed at 120.

EZKeys, SSD4.0ex, Roland D20 as controller, Sonar X2
Replied May 22, 2020 at 18:03 #2583284

Michael Marton
Participant

Erik wrote:

Hey Michael,

I think maybe I understand since you mention SD3 and EZdrummer: The song track tempo and audio tracker tempo are not locked to each other. It’s the tempo in Audio Tracker which doesn’t follow your DAW, right?

The audio tracker is designed to track any audio source, not just those of the same tempo as what your DAW or song track is set to. This way you can track an entirely different bass line in its own tempo and then when you add it to your song track it’ll work properly with the song track tempo, with correct note values even though it was tracked in another tempo.

After finishing tracking or when adding audio, in the “Tracker Session Setup” dialog you’re asked to set the tempo. By default it is set to 120 BPM, but we should probably have a look at making EZbass select the “Current Tempo in [DAW]” by default when tracking through Audio Sender.

After closing the setup dialog, you can change the tempo of the track manually in the transport bar to match the source tempo better. This does not affect the tempo of the song track (the audio tracker transport bar is separate from the song track transport bar).

This makes sense. After setting the correct tempo in EZB it was better. Thanks for the explanation. It would be nice EZB would follow DAW when recording into audio sender. It would remove one step of possible confusion but I can understand the function of having a global default.

EZKeys, SSD4.0ex, Roland D20 as controller, Sonar X2

Replied May 22, 2020 at 19:51 #2583347

Robert Freeze
Participant

Michael Marton wrote:

Henrik Ekblom wrote:

So, you started out with 120 in Studio One, and had Follow Host enabled – so EZbass was also 120 BPM. Then you changed the BPM in Studio One to 103, but EZbass stayed at 120 BPM?

No I inserted EZB in a project that had a tempo of 103, EZB stayed at 120.

Same here. Inserted into a song set to 88. Stayed at 120. Manually set to 88, used Audio Sender to record, and the result went to 120. Setting back to 88 worked after the fact, but shouldn’t it follow the host bpm.

This is also in Studio One

EZbass version: 1.0.2
Operating system: Windows 10

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Replied May 27, 2020 at 10:17 #2585835

Henrik Ekblom
Participant

We have made some changes in 1.0.3, so this issue should be resolved! Please try it and report back how it works out for you if you can 🙂

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

Replied February 21, 2022 at 23:40 #2879856

Victor Kennedy
Participant

I’m glad you think it’s been resolved. I can tell you now, as of 22nd Feb 2022 that the Tempo issues are very very problematic.

When I use EzBass Audio Tracker with Studio One there are major issues with a session which has Tempo Changes; ie the song may start at 100bpm, but have the tempo increase and/or decrease at varying points in the song. I’ve spent days trying to get this sorted.

I’ve been back and forth with Toontrack Support because their suggestions are not resolving the problem, because that’s what it is, a problem. And a major one at that.

I hope someone who has encountered this and found out how to make EzB follow the Host DAW can provide me with just how they got it working.

Cheers…

MacBook Air M3 OSX 14.7.2 | Logic Pro | Toontrack EZDrummer 3 | Tootrack EzBass | M-Audio AIR 192-14 | Schecter, Maton, Fender, DBZ & Epiphone Electric and Acoustic Guitars |

This post was modified 3 years, 3 months ago by Victor Kennedy.

Replied March 30, 2022 at 08:57 #2891051

gnat7
Participant

Also having this problem with Logic Pro x I have a song with a varying tempo when I export the song from Audio Tracker to Midi file It sticks with only one of the tempos (wherever I am when I export it) and the midi is completely off from the song. Is there a way to get the midi to follow the Tempo map of the project in my DAW? EZ Bass Seems to follow the Tempo but the file that I imported from Audio tracker does not seem to follow. Am I missing somthing?

EZbass version: 1.1.3
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Replied March 30, 2022 at 09:33 #2891060

gnat7
Participant

Figured it out.

I noticed there was an option in the Audio tracker setup to import tempo map, so I recorded an empty region (with one note so Logic would export it) and exported the midi to my desktop than imported it as a tempo map into EZ Bass. It worked. Just seems like it shouldn’t be this complicated as Audio tracker plays in time and Ez bass follows the host it seems like I shouldn’t have to do so much to make it work.

EZbass version: 1.1.3
Operating system: macOS High Sierra (10.13)
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