Topic: Exporting MIDI and Bouncing Messing up Tempo Map

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Replied May 12, 2020 at 17:48 #2575961

Bear-Faced Cow
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What you are exporting your MIDI with? As well, does your tempo map in SD3 show any changes? You may not have imported your tempo into SD3’s tempo map if not.

jord

Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

Replied May 12, 2020 at 17:55 #2575964

jschonig
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I’m in Logic X recording in and then exporting the MIDI. Then I am opening up SD3 (within logic) and pasting the MIDI into the Song Map. It imports my TD50 settings and Tempo Map. When I bounce the stems, the section where there is a DECEL it gets off…

Replied May 12, 2020 at 19:31 #2575985

Bear-Faced Cow
Participant

What do you mean by “it gets off”? Is it not decelerating?

jord

Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

Replied May 12, 2020 at 22:56 #2576045

John
Moderator

Hi,

can you save the Logic Project and/or the MIDI file plus SD3 Project file, ZIP Archive and attach to a post here?

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

Replied May 13, 2020 at 00:54 #2576078

jschonig
Participant

Its too big and won’t let me post – SD3 file and midi file here but not sure that is enough. I can put it in a dropbox also let me know

thanks for your help

jared

Replied May 13, 2020 at 00:55 #2576081

jschonig
Participant

oy and won’t let me post SD3 file for security reasons

Replied May 13, 2020 at 00:57 #2576085

John
Moderator

Just ZIP Archive it

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

Replied May 13, 2020 at 00:59 #2576087

jschonig
Participant

OK SD3 file and MIDI file here.

Replied May 13, 2020 at 10:05 #2576171

John
Moderator

Well,

something is definitely funky with the Tempo in that MIDI file.

When I Import the MIDI to Logic and include the Tempo, there is no Tempo before Bar 69.
If I just import the MIDI to SD3, SD3 ramps down from 120 until the first Tempo event at Bar 69.
If I open the SD3 Project, the Tempo Track looks exactly like in Logic, cut off until Bar 69.
Please make sure your Logic Tempo track and SD3 Tempo Track both have correct Tempo events in the beginning as well.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

Replied May 13, 2020 at 14:55 #2576222

jschonig
Participant

Very odd- attached is the screen shots of the tempo map in the logic file…
Replied May 13, 2020 at 16:48 #2576242
Bear-Faced Cow
Participant
So far I see two potential issues:
1. Your drum MIDI technically starts at Bar 8 (your controller information in the region might be ignored on export) and your tempo marker is at Bar 1. Hence no beginning tempo marker in your export.
2. Your change in tempo is a ramp. Logic handles ramped changes in tempo internally. As a MIDI export the only way it can interpret that ramp is with a series of tempo changes, which explains John’s screenshots. Thus, there will be a very rough resolution to your tempo changes, and you will hear it in your drum parts. If you want to smooth it you, you will have to do some work in SD3’s tempo map, by recreating the ramp manually if you want your tempo change in SD3 to be just as smooth. At least your ramp appears to be linear. You would have a harder time if you had used a more logarithmic ramp in Logic.
jord

Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/
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