GinridgeI didn’t get any responses to my follow up questions on January 2nd so I’ll start a new thread.
I’m gradually finding my way around this program. Great drum sounds but the documentation is rather sparse, particularly if you are not used to working with loops. In building a drum track for a session, I’m modifying existing loops by creating a part I wish to add in the tap 2 find box then copying it and pasting it (NOT any loops it brings up, what I’ve created in the highlighted box) on top of the existing loop I wish to modify. That works but it seems like there should be ab easier way to do it.
Another problem I’ve run into is that I have a three loop sequence modified the way I want and am trying to copy and past it to other sections of the song where this occurs again. In this case, it consists of three measure leading into the chorus. In order to add in a single cymbal crash, I had to cut the loop at the beginning to a single measure so the crash didn’t repeat through all three measures. I gather from what little I could find on the subject that this is how I have to do it.
When I highlight the three measures I want to copy, then copy them and go to paste them in the three measures (also multiple loops) I want to paste over (also highlighted at that point) it only pastes in the first loop but does it three times so there are three crashes instead of just one. I’ve managed to figure out a work around by first combining the three loops into a single loop, copying that, then combining the three loops I wish to copy over into a single loop, then pasting the modified loop I want there in place.
This seems like an awfully long way to go to do a simple copy paste process, particularly if I’m using this to create segments that I’ll be repeating throughout the song. Isn’t there an easier way to copy multiple loops from one section of a song track to another?
Last, I see the term velocity used in the edit play style section but do not have an understanding of what that means to audio in real time. It seems to associated with Midi (which I am not using) and it didn’t seem to have any affect on the sound when I played with it. Can someone explain what that is all about?
Thanks!
GinridgeI’d like to lower the volume of a section of the track a few DB to reflect the emotion of the song but I don’t see a master volume pot on the Mixer section.
Shy of manually lowering each channel is there a simpler more effective way to do this?
Doug MillerHey Ginridge,
Regarding your 3 measure loop crash issue, you can remove individual notes. You might have to split your loop though. Split your loop according to where you want and don’t want the cymbal. Select the loop where you don’t want the cymbal, right click it, and within the context menu you’ll see “Remove Notes”, select it and you’ll see a pull out menu listing which notes to remove, cymbal is one of them. Page 23 of the manual briefly explains it. Hope this helps!
Doug MillerI’d like to lower the volume of a section of the track a few DB to reflect the emotion of the song but I don’t see a master volume pot on the Mixer section.
Shy of manually lowering each channel is there a simpler more effective way to do this?
Did you try using the volume slider, lower right corner of the main interface? It changes the overall volume to the entire song though. Maybe try the velocity knob, if it’s only for a specific section. I’m new to EZD2 as well!
GinridgeBluesdelux: Thanks for the reply.
Re the Crash cymbal, I essentially did what you are suggesting in reverse. I cut the section where I wanted the crash down to one measure, then pasted the crash only onto that measure.
RE volume, In this instance, I was looking to simply lower the level of a short series of loops in a specific part of the song, not the entire song. I did try the velocity knob, but was unable to detect any difference. For what it’s worth, another post on this forum had a similar question about the velocity knob. Ultimately, I just used another loop, though it sees like there should be a way to do what I wanted to.
The plug in sounds great and I am continuing to make headway using it, but I wish there was more specific information on how to use it. Just out of curiosity, does EZ drummer 3 address any of these issues?
Doug MillerBluesdelux: Thanks for the reply.
Re the Crash cymbal, I essentially did what you are suggesting in reverse. I cut the section where I wanted the crash down to one measure, then pasted the crash only onto that measure.
RE volume, In this instance, I was looking to simply lower the level of a short series of loops in a specific part of the song, not the entire song. I did try the velocity knob, but was unable to detect any difference. For what it’s worth, another post on this forum had a similar question about the velocity knob. Ultimately, I just used another loop, though it sees like there should be a way to do what I wanted to.
The plug in sounds great and I am continuing to make headway using it, but I wish there was more specific information on how to use it. Just out of curiosity, does EZ drummer 3 address any of these issues?
- This post was modified 5 years, 5 months ago by Ginridge.
I’m not sure if Superior Drummer 3 would address that issue or not, I’m not familiar with it. I just know it’s much more robust than EZD2. If I stumble on anything relative to your issues since I’ve been experimenting as well, I’ll post any findings. I agree with you, there could be an easier way to edit notes. Maybe the Toontrack folks are thinking advanced edits can be made in the DAWs.
JohnHi,
if you have double-clicked a Song part and have ‘All playing Drums’ selected to the far left of the Velocity knob and then lower the Velocity by turning the knob to the left, you should definitely hear a difference in how loud the drums play (or rather are virtually struck).
You can also select individual drums and turn the Velocity up or down in a Song part (or all selected parts).
Superior Drummer 3 offers total control over every drum, articulation and microphone. It also has a Grid Editor for advanced editing.
EZdrummer 2 is meant to be easy, which is why the editing functions are more simplistic in the ways of selecting a part and drum and turning the Amount of hits knob. You have discovered that you can right-click and Remove a certain drum’s notes. You can also right-click a part where you e.g. like the Hi-Hat and ‘Copy’, then right-click another part where you have removed the Hi-Hat and select to Paste just the Hi-Hat.
BR,
John
John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor
Ginridge
if you have double-clicked a Song part and have ‘All playing Drums’ selected to the far left of the Velocity knob and then lower the Velocity by turning the knob to the left, you should definitely hear a difference in how loud the drums play (or rather are virtually struck). You can also select individual drums and turn the Velocity up or down in a Song part (or all selected parts).
Thanks, I was able to get that to work somewhat following your directions. I’ll play with it some more to get a feel for it’s capabilities.
Superior Drummer 3 offers total control over every drum, articulation and microphone. It also has a Grid Editor for advanced editing. EZdrummer 2 is meant to be easy, which is why the editing functions are more simplistic in the ways of selecting a part and drum and turning the Amount of hits knob.
That’s probably above my skill set at the moment but it sounds interesting. I imagine you could get some pretty sophisticated results with that.
You have discovered that you can right-click and Remove a certain drum’s notes. You can also right-click a part where you e.g. like the Hi-Hat and ‘Copy’, then right-click another part where you have removed the Hi-Hat and select to Paste just the Hi-Hat.
Ah that sounds like a good trick. I hadn’t figured that out yet.
RE an earlier question I had, is there a master list or a way to identify the loops I’m using on any given song after I’ve put them in the song track? I’ve managed to go back and identify what I used on this track by going the the list and listening but I wonder if there is some other way to do this shy of writing them down longhand as I go.
Thanks!
Johnan earlier question I had, is there a master list or a way to identify the loops I’m using on any given song after I’ve put them in the song track?
Just right-click the part on the Song Track > Find > Show in Browser.
BR,
John
John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor
GinridgeThanks! Is that documented somewhere I didn’t see? Is there additional detailed information about EZ Drummer 2 online that I am not aware of? I’ve viewed the tutorials on the site and looked for others on you tube, but I feel like I’m still missing a lot. The tracks do sound good though!
Thanks for any suggestions you may have.
JohnIt’s in the operational manual (Show in Browser) but not in that context, i.e. to identify a groove you have used but rather to see the groove and its companions in the Browser, in case you want to use an alternative groove.
You can also right-click and Tap2Find, which will have the groove in the top 100% along with similar grooves.
BR,
John
John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor
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