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Hello
I understand that ToonTracks EZ Drummer and Superior Drummer 3 software products have been designed to be used
with not only Keyboard based MIDI controllers but also other types of MIDI controller, such as E or V drum kits.
I was wondering however what the maximum number of keys / drum pads / that are used with both software virtual drum samplers / instruments.
I ask this, as I plan to adapt an electronic drum kit, to accommodate the maximum amount of samples, so that i can use the frankenstein’s monster of a drum kit live, not so much to simulate the perfect acoustic kit, but to give the options of the wide variety of sounds to the drummer playing in a single song.
I was hoping that someone could help me with that info.
As i note, when i use a standard midi keyboard controller to trigger the drum sounds, i think there are some samples / drums duplicated on some of the keys.
„As i note, when i use a standard midi keyboard controller to trigger the drum sounds, i think there are some samples / drums duplicated on some of the keys.“
As a Midi rookie — I am very very interested in this answer ,too
Hi,
there’s no E-drum specific limitation per se but E-drum kits seldom use all the 128 MIDI notes and it would most likely not be practical.
Both EZdrummer 2 and Superior Drummer 3 follow an extended version of the General MIDI mapping for drums.
If you are going to build a big tailored custom kit, you will have to have to have a very versatile module to set up all kit pieces and I doubt you will be content with running EZdrummer 2. You are going to want to be able to freely assign and re-assign notes, for one thing, which is one of all the things aimed at E-drummers that exists in SD3 and not in EZdrummer 2.
The “duplicated” keys are in some cases ‘aliases’ and in some cases articulation variations. They are either part of the extended GM mapping or substitution thereof, so that all Toontrack MIDI will play back as expected, whether or not the MIDI is intended for articulation variations of drums.
There are a few exceptions, like e.g. the Latin Percussion EZX and the Electronic EZX.
BR,
John
John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor
Hi John
thanks for replying to my request.
I was wondering if there was a sample map or some form of visual reference guide to how each ez drummer / superior drummer kit is mapped to the keys?
As such a map would be really useful for someone in my position, making a bespoke one off e-drum kit.
with regards to the drum module, i do not plan to use a drum module and instead plan to use hobbyist embedded systems devices such as Arduino prototyping boards to create a MIDI interface that connects directly to the computer via USB or good old fashion MIDI.
Arduino boards come in various sizes which allow various amounts of analogue inputs to be connected, such as from drum pad sensors.
If the biggest Arduino does not have enough analogue inputs, there is a number of solutions to this problem, such as using simple electronic components such as shift registers etc. All very cheap.
Like i say, the drum kit would really be a modern equal to a crazy Keith Moon style extreme kit.
As with Keith Moon, being practical does not come into the equation. I plan to do it for fun.
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