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SNARE SOUNDS NOT WORKING when selected from other EZ libraries

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  • Replied November 13, 2019 at 11:25 #2492220
    Henrik Ekblom
    Participant
    zachary khourey wrote:

    I select a snare from MODERN the snare sounds DISGUSTING.

    Can you elaborate on this? To much reverb? Bad EQ?

    Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
    Toontrack

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    Thanked by: zachary khourey
    Replied November 13, 2019 at 13:24 #2492233
    zachary khourey
    Participant

    I don’t think I can elaborate to be honest. The sounds are putrid, the snares don’t sound ANYTHING like they do in their own SPECIFIC KIT. They all sound like crappy robot voices.

    EDIT. toontracks emailed me an asked me to ADJUST THE BUFFER SPEED IN AUDIO/MIDI SETUP. I will now see if this fixes the problem!

    EDIT> BUFFER SPEED ADJUSTMENT.. unfortunately DOES NOTHING..

    this problem is ONLY AFFECTING SNARE SOUNDS.

    Any advice or suggestions would be very greatly appreciated 🙂

    Replied November 13, 2019 at 17:00 #2492321
    Henrik Ekblom
    Participant

    Can you export the audio of what it sounds like, and mention what snare you are using on what library for the audio file(s)? Attach them here in a post so we can have a listen!

    Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
    Toontrack

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    Thanked by: zachary khourey
    Replied November 13, 2019 at 19:05 #2492351
    zachary khourey
    Participant

    OK Henrik I will try and do as you have requested. But I don’t know if I can even work out how to do that hahaha

    But like I said,, it happens WITH ALL THE SNARES in all configurations..

    “MODERN“—-1. snares from “post-rock” sound terrible. 2. Snares from “made of metal”  sound bad but not terrible

    “Made of Metal”— 1. snares from “modern” sound terrible 2. snares from “made of metal” sound terrible

    “Post Rock”– 1.snares from “made of metal” sound bad but not terrible 2. snares from “modern”  sound terrible..

    the snares sound very TINNY, METALLIC, SHARP, AND THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME TONE. So may’be the same something is overlaying on the samples..

    IM BRAND NEW TO VST and electronic drumming overall. However I am certainly not exaggerating the issue.. I have done literally hours of back and forth testing.

    Replied November 14, 2019 at 13:14 #2492484
    Henrik Ekblom
    Participant

    We need to hear the result to be able to tell you if it’s intended to sound like that, or if there’s anything wrong…

    • In EZdrummer 2 – use a short MIDI block on the song track that plays a groove.
    • Add a snare that you think sounds strange, and go to (top right side of the song track, icon with 3 lines) menu > track > export song as wave file
    • This will create an audio file that you can post here.

    Screenshot-2019-11-14-at-13.12.49

    Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
    Toontrack

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    Replied November 14, 2019 at 14:48 #2492506
    zachary khourey
    Participant

    Well I can’t thank you enough for being so helpful and polite Henrik!! Ill get onto this ASAP 🙂

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    Replied November 14, 2019 at 16:35 #2492529
    Henrik Ekblom
    Participant
    zachary khourey wrote:

    Well I can’t thank you enough for being so helpful and polite Henrik!! Ill get onto this ASAP 🙂

    That’s why we are here 😀

    Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
    Toontrack

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    Thanked by: zachary khourey
    Replied December 8, 2019 at 16:02 #2515524
    zachary khourey
    Participant

    Henrik. So sorry for my overdue reply.. I have since downloaded another EZX and I think whtats happening is this. When I select a snare from another library and use it with a complete new library and pre selected kit the sounds are just processed differently. Some snare sounds work ok others sound dreadful. Sorry this is really hard to explain to be honest.. hahahaha Do you get what im saying?

    Replied December 9, 2019 at 01:08 #2515681
    Olof Westman
    Forum Crew

    Maybe this is the same?
    https://www.toontrack.com/forums/topic/ez-drummer-2-custom-set-sound-issues/?view=all

    Olof Westman - Toontrack
    Coder

    Replied December 9, 2019 at 09:42 #2515758
    zachary khourey
    Participant

    WOW,, yes this is EXACTLY whats happening with me! but its affects all my EZX .. post rock, made of metal and big rock,, AND ONLY THE SNARES

     

    hmmmmmm anybody have any suggestions! lol

    Replied December 9, 2019 at 14:37 #2515816
    Olof Westman
    Forum Crew

    That other forum topic deals only with loading snares from other EZXs into some Made of Metal presets. Made of Metal is the odd one out here in that it has 4 close snare mics while the other typically have 2.

    Still, everytime you load a drum from another EZX you are gambling. It may sound good or it may not. If you are using the Original Mix preset then the “foreign” drum is supposed to sound rather like it does in its own EZX using the Original Mix preset. In any other case the result is rather unpredictable.

    Olof Westman - Toontrack
    Coder

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    Thanked by: zachary khourey
    Replied December 9, 2019 at 17:16 #2515847
    zachary khourey
    Participant

    Yes I agree with you whole heartedly. However this wild gamble only seems to happen with the snare drums. It is what it is. I wonder if this happens in superior drummer?? thank you  TO EVERYONE for taking the time to reply  🙂

    Replied December 9, 2019 at 17:50 #2515862
    Olof Westman
    Forum Crew

    In Superior Drummer you get a chance to modify the preset to suit the foreign drum. Otherwise, yes, what happens by default when you load a drum from another library would be pretty much the same.

    Olof Westman - Toontrack
    Coder

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    Replied November 28, 2021 at 23:22 #2835182
    Christopher Shaski
    Participant

    I just upgraded from EZ Drummer 2  to Superior Drummer 3 and I am noticing the same thing. I bought the death and darkness SDX and have loaded the preset “BB Ocean Blues” kit from the Death side of the SDX. When I changed the snare to the 14″pearl from the drumkit from Hell EZX the snare sounds nothing like it does when I load the whole kit together just as the original post says. This is happening with a bunch of different snares trying to load into the BB Ocean Blues kit.  From what I am understanding from your response this is because the kit from BB Ocean Blues did not use as many snare mics when recording it? I may be not understanding correctly. Either way , it looks like you are saying there is a way to correct this in Superior Drummer 3 by being able to “modify the preset to suit the foreign drum”. Could you please tell me how to do this or send me a link to a tutorial? I just got SDX yesterday so I am still new to it.

     

    Thank you

    Chris


    EZdrummer version: 2.2.2
    Operating system: Windows 10
    Replied November 29, 2021 at 09:13 #2835944
    John
    Moderator

    Hi Chris,

    if you first load the EZX in SD3, you can save the Snare’s Mixer channel(s) as your own User presets.
    Also, pay attention to which Mixer channels define the sound you are after.

    Next, load the SDX, select the Snare and Replace with the Snare from the EZX. After that check the Microphone Routing, adjusting and/or creating new Mixer channels if needed. Last, apply the User preset(s) you saved in the Mixer.

    BR,
    John

    John Rammelt - Toontrack
    Technical Advisor

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