Topic: How to unassign midi for second kick???

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Replied September 18, 2019 at 06:26 #2478323
Brad
Participant
Which kit did you add the extra kick to? Did you assign a specific note to the new kick, when I added a new kick to the default SD3 kit it was assigned MIDI note 34. When I removed the kick MIDI note 34 does nothing.

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Replied September 18, 2019 at 12:36 #2478502

Rev2010
Participant

It’s a kit that my old drummer and I had made in Metal Foundry. I didn’t assign any midi note, just changed the original left/kick with the same instance of an SD3 kick. When I noticed the oddness in the sound when doing double kick I removed the left and tried to go back to single kick but now the single kick won’t automatically trigger both kick drum notes, and the odd thing is they are all on the same midi note! Even if I create a blank midi part and draw in a drum roll on the kick it still is “automatically” sending every other note to a no longer existent left kick. I’m ready to give up on this software robe honest. Trying to use a combination of Metal Foundry with SD3 has kept me up late several nights now. Between this, reactiving all the bleeds, differences in mixer channels leading to have to remap mic channels then reload and reconfigure each channels effects manually is not an easy process.
Replied September 18, 2019 at 15:56 #2478538

Bear-Faced Cow
Participant

Do you have “Use Alternate Hits” in the “Hit Variation” panel checked? If so, you might want to try unchecking it.

jord

Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/
Replied September 18, 2019 at 16:02 #2478539

Brad
Participant

Jord beat me to it.

Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

Do you have “Use Alternate Hits” in the “Hit Variation” panel checked? If so, you might want to try unchecking it.

jord

Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)

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Replied September 18, 2019 at 16:58 #2478547

Rev2010
Participant

Tried that, made no difference. I turned off all the check boxes and still it sends every other kick hit to the empty kick.

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Replied September 18, 2019 at 17:56 #2478559

Brad
Participant

Could you save the setup as a project (File> “Project” > Save), zip the file and post it here so we can take a look at it.

Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)

Replied September 18, 2019 at 19:51 #2478581

Rev2010
Participant

I might not have the time this evening, but if not I should have time tomorrow night to upload it here.

Replied September 18, 2019 at 19:59 #2478585

Bear-Faced Cow
Participant

Is the groove itself sending to left and right articulations?

jord

Jordan L. Chilcott

Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

Replied September 18, 2019 at 23:50 #2478627

Rev2010
Participant

Nope, all kick hits are on the same key in piano roll. As mentioned I also freshly drew in some kick hit notes and same thing happens. It’s really bizarre! I also saved the kit, exited fully out of my DAW and went back in and same thing. It has me so upset since I spent a lot of time tweaking the snare and kick in the saved preset so I don’t want to start all over by creating a fresh preset. Something about adding the second instance of a kick then removing it caused this odd behaviour. Two more questions:

1. Is there a way to save several mixer channel’s configurations? If so, then I can simply save the channels, create a new kit, and easily reload then so all the effects and such are in place already.

2. Is there a way to type in the master volume? With SD2 you can simply type in say -3.4db. With SD3 I see the slider but no way to type in an exact volume, and the slider skips numbers, like I cannot put in exactly -3.4db, it’s either -3.8db or -3.3db.

Replied September 19, 2019 at 00:21 #2478635

Brad
Participant

Sorry. You are meaning the volume slider at the bottom. I never touch that one.

Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)

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Replied September 19, 2019 at 09:35 #2478690

Henrik Ekblom
Participant

Rev2010 wrote:

Is there a way to save several mixer channel’s configurations? If so, then I can simply save the channels, create a new kit, and easily reload then so all the effects and such are in place already.

You can each mixer channel as a user Channel Effects Preset (in the Channel Effects menu in the mixer). It does also work to multi-select channels, and then select Save As… which enabled you to quickly save each channel setup as its own preset. Channel Effect Presets are best for loading individual channel setups.

If you want to load multiple mixer channels (every Microphone Channel in the mixer, for example), then you can save a user preset in the Drums & Mixer menu (in the top right corner of the software). Then you can go to that preset, press the small arrow, and select Load Parts… where you can select what to load (only the mixer for example, or only the mixer channels that are currently selected).

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

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Replied September 20, 2019 at 17:07 #2478902

Rev2010
Participant

So I got this resolved the other night. Turns out I had to both turn off use alternate hits *and* then also assign midi note 35 to the kick, it only had note 36 mapped. Doing that resolved all the issues. Doing just one by itself wasn’t enough for some reason.

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Replied September 20, 2019 at 18:44 #2478916

Olof Westman
Forum Crew

You shouldn’t have to move that note. Once you have done “Remove Instrument” on your left kick any incomming MIDI on its assigned notes should be automatically relayed to the right kick (by a feature called substitution). So, while this resolved your problem we remain bewildered.

Olof Westman - Toontrack
Coder

Replied September 20, 2019 at 19:47 #2478930

Rev2010
Participant

I agree, and usually it does automatically route the note to the single kick. For some reason those things got wonky with this kit once I added the double kick and that’s what I had to do. Just glad it’s working!
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How to unassign midi for second kick???

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