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Bouncing Separate Tracks in Superior Drummer 3

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  • Replied May 9, 2019 at 18:08 #2450411
    John
    Moderator

    Hi,

     

    I take it you do not want to use the internal bounce to bounce per microphone?
    You wish to have separate files for each instrument but with the mixer settings and FX you hear while playing back?

    As you have guessed, you set up each instrument buss to their own output and if there are parallel compression busses, you need to duplicate these as well.

    If you feel that’s too much work, another option is to simply Solo e.g. the Snare on the Drums page before you Bounce the Track, then Solo the Kick and Bounce the Track, etc.
    This will Bounce through the mixer but only the instrument soloed.

     

    BR,

    John

    John Rammelt - Toontrack
    Technical Advisor

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    Replied May 9, 2019 at 18:25 #2450415
    RcKDrUmm3R
    Participant

    Ok so I bounce as a stereo track but just solo the snare??!? That would work for me!

    - Dan, Drummer of Deadtide

    Replied May 10, 2019 at 05:46 #2450521
    RcKDrUmm3R
    Participant

    Hi John, I tried soloing the Snare drum as a test for a random groove and I think something is wrong with the program. I am only getting bass, even when I try to clear solo and bounce other drums like the toms or hi hats. Please advise, thanks!

    - Dan, Drummer of Deadtide

    Replied May 10, 2019 at 05:55 #2450522
    RcKDrUmm3R
    Participant

    In fact, it is actually bouncing a totally different groove. Seems like something may be corrupt??? Very frustrating. Any body else experience this issue while bouncing and soloing specific drums?

    - Dan, Drummer of Deadtide

    Replied May 10, 2019 at 08:42 #2450531
    John
    Moderator

    I’ve tried it multiple times myself and had no unexpected results.

    Do you have the MIDI on the SD3 Song Track?

    Do you Solo the instrument on the DRUMS page (i.e. not the Mixer page)?

    Do you Bounce the SD3 Track or are you using the Logic Bounce? The former is what I am talking about, the latter will of course not work the same.

    John Rammelt - Toontrack
    Technical Advisor

    Replied May 10, 2019 at 13:19 #2450575
    RcKDrUmm3R
    Participant

    I am using SD3 in standalone mode. I drag in a groove so there is midi. When I solo the snare and bounce the outputs I get the bass drum and it’s a totally different groove. I’ve tried multiple times with different midi grooves inside SD3 soloing the different drums but to the same result. I don’t know if something is corrupt???

    - Dan, Drummer of Deadtide

    Replied May 10, 2019 at 21:55 #2451081
    Brad
    Participant

    Could you zip a bit of the MIDI you are using and post it here so we’re all working from the same groove?

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    Replied May 10, 2019 at 22:12 #2451095
    RcKDrUmm3R
    Participant

    Sure I’ll attach the midi file and the audio file of the export in a few hours after my work 🙂

    - Dan, Drummer of Deadtide

    Replied May 11, 2019 at 00:02 #2451166
    RcKDrUmm3R
    Participant

    Here you go, very odd.

    - Dan, Drummer of Deadtide

    Replied May 11, 2019 at 00:04 #2451170
    RcKDrUmm3R
    Participant

    Here’s the midi

    - Dan, Drummer of Deadtide

    Replied May 11, 2019 at 00:25 #2451191
    RcKDrUmm3R
    Participant

    I figured out what the issue is. Superior drummer 3 does not allow you to save and name the file. This is what normally happens in a program such as Logic Pro X for example. The only option is to open, but you are not opening anything you are saving? If you solo the bass, export, then solo the snare and export, you have to rename each file before you move onto the next instrument. The files won’t even overwrite each other. This should be fixed so Superior drummer allows you to export/bounce and save the file with a specific name just like other programs. See screenshots below

    - Dan, Drummer of Deadtide

    Replied May 11, 2019 at 00:26 #2451193
    RcKDrUmm3R
    Participant

    Bouncing, opening but not ‘saving’ in Superior Drummer 3.

    - Dan, Drummer of Deadtide

    Replied May 11, 2019 at 00:55 #2451213
    Bear-Faced Cow
    Participant
    RcKDrUmm3R wrote:

    I figured out what the issue is. Superior drummer 3 does not allow you to save and name the file. This is what normally happens in a program such as Logic Pro X for example. The only option is to open, but you are not opening anything you are saving? If you solo the bass, export, then solo the snare and export, you have to rename each file before you move onto the next instrument. The files won’t even overwrite each other. This should be fixed so Superior drummer allows you to export/bounce and save the file with a specific name just like other programs. See screenshots below

    That would be overly tedious for those of us who bounce multiple drum tracks. SD3’s file naming is not an anomaly and quite in line with other drum software. FWIW, you’re doing things the hard way and I wouldn’t be surprised if things sound a bit strange in your mix.

    jord

    Jordan L. Chilcott

    Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

    Replied May 11, 2019 at 08:05 #2451371
    RcKDrUmm3R
    Participant
    Bear-Faced Cow wrote:
    RcKDrUmm3R wrote:

    I figured out what the issue is. Superior drummer 3 does not allow you to save and name the file. This is what normally happens in a program such as Logic Pro X for example. The only option is to open, but you are not opening anything you are saving? If you solo the bass, export, then solo the snare and export, you have to rename each file before you move onto the next instrument. The files won’t even overwrite each other. This should be fixed so Superior drummer allows you to export/bounce and save the file with a specific name just like other programs. See screenshots below

    That would be overly tedious for those of us who bounce multiple drum tracks. SD3’s file naming is not an anomaly and quite in line with other drum software. FWIW, you’re doing things the hard way and I wouldn’t be surprised if things sound a bit strange in your mix.

    jord

    • The post has been modified 6 years, 1 month ago by Bear-Faced Cow"> 2 times, last modified 6 years, 1 month ago by Bear-Faced Cow.

    Bear-Faced Cow If you can provide an easier way i’m all ears. I’m trying to bounce separate tracks for each drum (snare, bass, toms, cymbals) but there’s no option for this in Superior Drummer 3. You could bounce the outputs but it’s difficult when you use presets that have multiple buss’s, like parallel compression. (See the Djent preset)

    I was advised to solo and bounce each drum one by one. Every time you bounce, the file name saves as Out_1+2.wav automatically. If you do not rename each file before exporting the next drum, for some reason it won’t give you the option to overwrite (“Replace”) the pre-existing file, or save with a unique file name. Nothing happens. Even if not provided with the option it should either overwrite or save as Out_1+2.wav(2). Something to that effect. Please see the screenshot attached, this is what happens when you bounce a duplicate file in Logic Pro X.

    - Dan, Drummer of Deadtide

    Replied May 11, 2019 at 11:18 #2451450
    Bear-Faced Cow
    Participant

    First of all, why do you feel the need to bounce all of the individual kit pieces if you have a full drum mix happening within SD3? Unless you need control of your tracks or need to process them further, all you are doing is adding further complexity to your mix. Even worse is that you are compounding this by bouncing individual tracks because now the main bus and parallel compressors are no longer gluing the outputs. The sonic results can vary from a totally disjointed drum mix to howling due to the kit pieces multiplying and anywhere in between. Considering that you have a well glued mix within SD3, you’re better off keeping it there and any control that you need over a channel can be accomplished by attaching a macro to it and automating it through Logic.

    Otherwise, if you are still adamant on having individual tracks, what you are best to do is bounce the kit piece and ambient busses to individual outputs and then recreate the Kit and Comp busses within Logic to glue it back together.

    jord

    Jordan L. Chilcott

    Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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