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Very slow load times in Studio One 4.1.1

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  • Replied November 19, 2018 at 19:49 #2147582
    Mark Hughes
    Participant

    PS Its about 20-30 seconds each time I load a different kit, or the vst itself.

    Replied November 19, 2018 at 20:25 #2147710
    Jack 007
    Participant

    I get the same with stand alone on an i7 system, non SSD, 4 core 3.6 mHz, 32GB ram.

    Replied November 20, 2018 at 09:11 #2149303
    John
    Moderator

    Hi Mark,

    the ‘Preparing kit’ message, where is that displayed?

    Which version number is reported by the plugin (plugin Menu >About Superior Drummer 3)?

    Is it the same version number in the Standalone?

     

    BR,

    John

    John Rammelt - Toontrack
    Technical Advisor

    Replied November 20, 2018 at 10:00 #2149396
    Mark Hughes
    Participant

    Hi John

    Thanks for your interest.<br class=”m_-3821757681475908635gmail-Apple-interchange-newline” />
    Studio one x64 v 4.1.1.49941
    The ‘Preparing xx’  message comes up in the middle of the Superior 3 screen every time when changing kits eg ‘Preparing Music City USA…’
    The standalone is
    Superior Drummer 3 plug-in version 3.1.2 (build 20164) [64-bit VST]
    Standalone host version 3.1.2 (build 20164)
    SOUND LIBRARIES
    CUSTOM & VINTAGE version 1.5.0
    INDIEPENDENT version 1.5.0
    MUSIC CITY USA version 1.5.0
    N.Y. – ALLAIRE version 1.5.0
    N.Y. – AVATAR version 1.5.0
    N.Y. – HIT FACTORY version 1.5.0
    N.Y. – VOLUME 3 version 1.5.0
    ROOTS – BRUSHES & TOOLS version 1.5.0
    ROOTS – STICKS version 1.5.0
    SUPERIOR DRUMMER 3 version 1.1.2
    THE PROGRESSIVE FOUNDRY version 1.5.0
    THE ROCK WAREHOUSE version 1.5.0
    The Rock Foundry version 1.0.2
    The Rock Foundry – Mono Kit version 1.0.2
    AMERICANA EZX version 1.5.2
    BIG ROCK DRUMS EZX version 1.0.1
    CLAUSTROPHOBIC EZX version 1.5.3
    COCKTAIL EZX version 1.3.3
    DREAM POP EZX version 1.0.0
    DRUMKIT FROM HELL EZX version 1.5.3
    ELECTRONIC EZX version 1.5.2
    EZDRUMMER 2 MODERN version 1.1.1
    EZDRUMMER 2 VINTAGE version 1.1.1
    FUNKMASTER CLYDE EZX version 1.5.4
    FUNKMASTER JABO EZX version 1.5.4
    HIP-HOP! EZX version 1.0.0
    INDIE FOLK  EZX version 1.5.2
    INDIE FOLK 4MIC version 1.5.2
    JAZZ EZX version 1.5.1
    LATIN PERCUSSION EZX version 1.5.5
    NASHVILLE EZX version 1.5.4
    NUMBER 1 HITS EZX version 1.5.1
    POP! EZX version 1.5.1
    POST-ROCK EZX version 1.0.0
    REGGAE EZX version 1.0.2
    ROCK! EZX version 1.5.3
    SEVENTIES ROCK EZX version 1.0.0
    SOUTHERN SOUL 60s version 1.0.0
    SOUTHERN SOUL 70s version 1.0.0
    THE CLASSIC  EZX version 1.5.1
    THE CLASSIC 4MIC version 1.5.1
    TWISTED KIT EZX version 1.5.2
    VINTAGE ROCK EZX version 1.5.3
    Superior Drummer 3 – Preset Sounds version 1.0.2
    The Rock Foundry – Preset Sounds version 1.0.0
    Superior Drummer 3 – Percussion version 1.0.0
    Superior Drummer 3 – Electronic version 1.0.0
    MIDI LIBRARIES
    Alt-Rock Grooves version 1.0.0
    American Rock version 1.0.0
    AOR Grooves version 1.0.0
    Backbeats version 1.2.0
    Ballads version 1.2.0
    Custom/Vintage version 1.2.0
    Disco Grooves version 1.0.0
    EZdrummer 1 Pop/Rock version 1.0.0
    EZdrummer 2 Modern/Vintage version 1.0.0
    EZdrummer 2 Percussion version 1.0.0
    EZplayer Pro MIDI version 1.0.0
    EZX Americana version 1.5.0
    EZX Big Rock Drums version 1.0.0
    EZX Claustrophobic version 1.5.0
    EZX Cocktail version 1.3.2
    EZX Dream Pop version 1.0.0
    EZX Drumkit from Hell Guests version 1.5.0
    EZX Drumkit from Hell version 1.5.0
    EZX Electronic version 1.5.0
    EZX Funkmasters version 1.5.0
    EZX Hip-Hop! version 1.0.0
    EZX Indie Folk version 1.5.0
    EZX Jazz version 1.5.0
    EZX Latin Percussion version 1.5.3
    EZX Nashville version 1.5.0
    EZX Number 1 Hits version 1.5.0
    EZX Pop! version 1.5.0
    EZX Post-Rock version 1.0.0
    EZX Reggae version 1.0.1
    EZX Rock! version 1.5.0
    EZX Seventies Rock version 1.0.0
    EZX Southern Soul version 1.0.0
    EZX The Classic version 1.5.0
    EZX Twisted Kit version 1.5.3
    EZX Vintage Rock version 1.5.0
    Fusion Grooves version 1.0.0
    Hip-Hop Grooves version 1.0.0
    Indiependent version 1.0.0
    Monster MIDI Fills Pack version 1.2.0
    Monster MIDI Pack version 1.2.0
    Music City USA version 1.2.0
    N.Y – Allaire version 1.2.0
    N.Y – Avatar version 1.2.0
    N.Y – Volume 3 version 1.2.0
    Pocket Grooves version 1.0.0
    Post-Rock Grooves version 1.0.0
    Reggae Beats version 1.0.0
    Rock Songs version 1.2.0
    Roots version 1.2.1
    Session Drums version 1.2.0
    Singer Songwriter Grooves version 1.0.0
    Sixties Pop Grooves version 1.0.0
    Songwriters Fillpack 2 version 1.2.0
    Songwriters Fillpack version 1.2.0
    Songwriters Pack 2 version 1.2.0
    Songwriters Pack 3 version 1.2.0
    Songwriters Pack 4 version 1.2.0
    Songwriters Pack version 1.2.0
    Soul Grooves version 1.0.0
    Superior Drummer 3 version 1.0.0
    The Metal Foundry version 1.0.0
    The Progressive Foundry version 1.0.0
    The Rock Foundry version 1.0.0
    The Rock Warehouse version 1.2.0
    UK Pop Grooves version 1.0.0
    The Studio One VSt is:
    Superior Drummer 3 plug-in version 3.1.2 (build 20164) [64-bit VST]
    SOUND LIBRARIES
    CUSTOM & VINTAGE version 1.5.0
    INDIEPENDENT version 1.5.0
    MUSIC CITY USA version 1.5.0
    N.Y. – ALLAIRE version 1.5.0
    N.Y. – AVATAR version 1.5.0
    N.Y. – HIT FACTORY version 1.5.0
    N.Y. – VOLUME 3 version 1.5.0
    ROOTS – BRUSHES & TOOLS version 1.5.0
    ROOTS – STICKS version 1.5.0
    SUPERIOR DRUMMER 3 version 1.1.2
    THE PROGRESSIVE FOUNDRY version 1.5.0
    THE ROCK WAREHOUSE version 1.5.0
    The Rock Foundry version 1.0.2
    The Rock Foundry – Mono Kit version 1.0.2
    AMERICANA EZX version 1.5.2
    BIG ROCK DRUMS EZX version 1.0.1
    CLAUSTROPHOBIC EZX version 1.5.3
    COCKTAIL EZX version 1.3.3
    DREAM POP EZX version 1.0.0
    DRUMKIT FROM HELL EZX version 1.5.3
    ELECTRONIC EZX version 1.5.2
    EZDRUMMER 2 MODERN version 1.1.1
    EZDRUMMER 2 VINTAGE version 1.1.1
    FUNKMASTER CLYDE EZX version 1.5.4
    FUNKMASTER JABO EZX version 1.5.4
    HIP-HOP! EZX version 1.0.0
    INDIE FOLK  EZX version 1.5.2
    INDIE FOLK 4MIC version 1.5.2
    JAZZ EZX version 1.5.1
    LATIN PERCUSSION EZX version 1.5.5
    NASHVILLE EZX version 1.5.4
    NUMBER 1 HITS EZX version 1.5.1
    POP! EZX version 1.5.1
    POST-ROCK EZX version 1.0.0
    REGGAE EZX version 1.0.2
    ROCK! EZX version 1.5.3
    SEVENTIES ROCK EZX version 1.0.0
    SOUTHERN SOUL 60s version 1.0.0
    SOUTHERN SOUL 70s version 1.0.0
    THE CLASSIC  EZX version 1.5.1
    THE CLASSIC 4MIC version 1.5.1
    TWISTED KIT EZX version 1.5.2
    VINTAGE ROCK EZX version 1.5.3
    Superior Drummer 3 – Preset Sounds version 1.0.2
    The Rock Foundry – Preset Sounds version 1.0.0
    Superior Drummer 3 – Percussion version 1.0.0
    Superior Drummer 3 – Electronic version 1.0.0
    MIDI LIBRARIES
    Alt-Rock Grooves version 1.0.0
    American Rock version 1.0.0
    AOR Grooves version 1.0.0
    Backbeats version 1.2.0
    Ballads version 1.2.0
    Custom/Vintage version 1.2.0
    Disco Grooves version 1.0.0
    EZdrummer 1 Pop/Rock version 1.0.0
    EZdrummer 2 Modern/Vintage version 1.0.0
    EZdrummer 2 Percussion version 1.0.0
    EZplayer Pro MIDI version 1.0.0
    EZX Americana version 1.5.0
    EZX Big Rock Drums version 1.0.0
    EZX Claustrophobic version 1.5.0
    EZX Cocktail version 1.3.2
    EZX Dream Pop version 1.0.0
    EZX Drumkit from Hell Guests version 1.5.0
    EZX Drumkit from Hell version 1.5.0
    EZX Electronic version 1.5.0
    EZX Funkmasters version 1.5.0
    EZX Hip-Hop! version 1.0.0
    EZX Indie Folk version 1.5.0
    EZX Jazz version 1.5.0
    EZX Latin Percussion version 1.5.3
    EZX Nashville version 1.5.0
    EZX Number 1 Hits version 1.5.0
    EZX Pop! version 1.5.0
    EZX Post-Rock version 1.0.0
    EZX Reggae version 1.0.1
    EZX Rock! version 1.5.0
    EZX Seventies Rock version 1.0.0
    EZX Southern Soul version 1.0.0
    EZX The Classic version 1.5.0
    EZX Twisted Kit version 1.5.3
    EZX Vintage Rock version 1.5.0
    Fusion Grooves version 1.0.0
    Hip-Hop Grooves version 1.0.0
    Indiependent version 1.0.0
    Monster MIDI Fills Pack version 1.2.0
    Monster MIDI Pack version 1.2.0
    Music City USA version 1.2.0
    N.Y – Allaire version 1.2.0
    N.Y – Avatar version 1.2.0
    N.Y – Volume 3 version 1.2.0
    Pocket Grooves version 1.0.0
    Post-Rock Grooves version 1.0.0
    Reggae Beats version 1.0.0
    Rock Songs version 1.2.0
    Roots version 1.2.1
    Session Drums version 1.2.0
    Singer Songwriter Grooves version 1.0.0
    Sixties Pop Grooves version 1.0.0
    Songwriters Fillpack 2 version 1.2.0
    Songwriters Fillpack version 1.2.0
    Songwriters Pack 2 version 1.2.0
    Songwriters Pack 3 version 1.2.0
    Songwriters Pack 4 version 1.2.0
    Songwriters Pack version 1.2.0
    Soul Grooves version 1.0.0
    Superior Drummer 3 version 1.0.0
    The Metal Foundry version 1.0.0
    The Progressive Foundry version 1.0.0
    The Rock Foundry version 1.0.0
    The Rock Warehouse version 1.2.0
    UK Pop Grooves version 1.0.0
    Regards
    Mark
    Replied November 20, 2018 at 10:02 #2149403
    Mark Hughes
    Participant

    PS I have reinstalled SD3 and Studio one. Rebuilt SD3 database. Redetected plugins in Studio One.

    Mark

    Replied November 20, 2018 at 11:35 #2149571
    John
    Moderator

    OK, just wanted to make sure it wasn’t a message displayed outside the plugin, in Studio One.

    Versions seem to be in order AFAICT.

    Do you have any other Memory/Disk demanding VI’s that you can compare with to see if this is general behaviour in Studio One vs e.g. Cubase?

     

    BR,

    John

    John Rammelt - Toontrack
    Technical Advisor

    Replied November 20, 2018 at 13:14 #2149727
    Mark Hughes
    Participant

    Hi John

    That was a good test. I took Native Instruments Modern Drummer and it loaded a kit in 10 seconds in Cubase and 45 seconds in Studio One.

    Regards

    Mark

    Replied November 20, 2018 at 22:29 #2151349
    John
    Moderator

    Well, that would seem to indicate that the differing loading times may be up to something in Studio One. Did you ask anyone at the Presonus site?

     

    BR,

    John

    John Rammelt - Toontrack
    Technical Advisor

    Replied November 21, 2018 at 08:27 #2152437
    Mark Hughes
    Participant

    Hi John

    Yes, I have now posted an issue with Presonus. Do you have the time and a version of Studio One there that you can quickly reproduce (or not) the problem? It would be useful to find it was general or just specific to me.

    Regards

    Mark

    Replied November 21, 2018 at 09:36 #2152530
    Henrik Ekblom
    Participant

    I tried this on my computer, however it’s a Mac, having samples on an external non SSD drive, so it differs from your setup.

    • The load time for inserting SD3 and opening the interface was a bit quicker on Studio One 4 than Logic Pro X.
    • To switch from SD3 Core Library to Metal Foundry took about 3 seconds on both Logic and Studio One.

    These times don’t include the loading of the samples, just how fast the Preparing popup disappears.

    Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
    Toontrack

    Replied November 21, 2018 at 10:40 #2152939
    Mark Hughes
    Participant

    Thanks Henrik, that’s a useful comparison. there seems to be something either about Studio One on the PC platform  or just the setup my particular computer. I’ll see what comes up from Presonus.

    Thanks for your help

    Mark

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    Thanked by: Henrik Ekblom
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