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Hi! Just purchased SD3 and am loving the sounds and functions of the software. I made a drum track for a song in SD3 in Logic Pro X using it as a plug-in and I’m trying to get the drum track into Logic as audio so that I can mix it like recorded drums with no luck. Been trying to watch and read all kinds of tutorials but had no luck so far.
I managed to set the mic tracks into multi-out mode in SD3 and have gotten a set of 6 tracks into Logic mixer which consist of the 6 default channel busses going out of SD3. In the Logic mixer I now have the different SD3 kick-mics, snare top+bottom, toms, etc grouped into 6 aux tracks in total which is how I like it as I have no need to process 16 tracks of separate toms etc in Logic- I prefer having these six tracks that SD3 automatically creates to work with which already have the toms and different snare mics already grouped.
So everything is good so far- I can audition plug-ins in the Logic mixer for the six tracks and process the drums how I like. The problem arises in getting these processed drum tracks to audio. I cannot for the life of me figure this out. I’m basically trying to do what this guy does using Pro Tools at 7:55-8:20 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJopy9unamM) and print the drums into audio. I have the 6 aux tracks that Logic/SD3 created for me in the mixer but these aren’t visible in the arrangement window- if I click “Create track” in the mixer on all of these I get the tracks visible in the arrangement window but I don’t get the “I” and “R” input monitoring and record buttons to record into audio on the tracks.
I also do not want to use the “bounce” function in SD3 as this function exports 11 tracks to the finder as wav-files which have all the different mics separately. I prefer to mix the different mics from say kick together in SD3, group that balance into the kick buss that SD3 automatically makes and export that kick track as one track- just as SD3 does automatically as I described above. Also using the bounce method I have to manually import the wav-audio tracks into Logic and reprocess them which seems redundant as I’ve already done that using the abovementioned functions. Also creating a new audio track does not work as the SD3 virtual busses do not show up as available inputs.
So basically- how do I render the tracks into audio in Logic? Seems pointless to be able to process the 6 buss-tracks out of SD3 separately ready grouped, process and mix them using plug-ins in Logic but then not be able to render into audio in any way?
I might be thick and be missing a crucial step. I’d appreciate any help from the community, thanks!
Attached are images of the mixer with the 6 SD3 grouped drum busses and an image of the arrange window after using the “create track” function on the tracks – no record options visible.
Hi Rasmus_5,
I run logic 10.4.1 and quickly set up a loop with SD3 as a plugin as you did to make sure what I am going to suggest will work. In Logic I selected the multi-output option in SD3 and created multi busses in Logic. In the SD3 mixer I bussed all of the kick mics to a single bus, in this case bus 3/4. So far everything is as you set it up.
Now in Logic, I set the kick bus channel to output 3/4 of logic. When you do this, a 3/4 Output fader appears between the Stereo output fader and Master fader. I checked to make sure only the kick drum was playing in this bus only.
Press bounce on the 3/4 Output fader (bottom). A dialog box will pop up, select 24 PCM and on the right of the dialog box there is an option to include file in your project. Check this box.
After logic completes the bounce open your browsers, the little box in the upper right hand corner (image of camera, notes, film) where logic contains the links to the various files in your project. Your newly bounced tracks will be in there.
Now drag these files from there onto/ into your arrange page and drop them on the correct bar. Now you should have your drums bussed out as you wanted them. Hope this made sense.
Dan
Logic X, SD3, SD2, iMac
Hi,
I would simply select the SD3 Instrument Track, go to File > Bounce > Track In Place and make sure that ‘Include Instrument Multi-Outputs’ and ‘As Additional Tracks’ are checked.
BR,
John
John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor
Thanks Dan and John! Having first tried Dan’s method I failed as I didn’t have other outputs visible than the stereo out. I applied the idea and sent the 6 aux tracks to 6 new separate busses and manually made audio tracks for all of these and set the inputs for the audio tracks to the corresponding busses. This seemed like a huge pain though as it required lots of manual tweaking so I did some digging further.
The method I found to work best was the following: After having the six drum busses made in the mixer I used the “Create tracks from selection” function from them which made them visible in the arrangement window. In the arrangement window I tried various export/bounce functions and found that the most efficient and practical method in this application seemed to be to select the six drum tracks, go to file->bounce tracks in place. Kind of like how John described.
This way I get all of the six drum buss tracks as separate audio straight into the arrangement window without menu diving or drag-and-dropping. After that the only thing left to do is to delete the SD3 aux tracks (and the SD3 software instrument track if I’m really done with drum programming) as I’m unable to check the box for “Replace original tracks” in the bounce window.
Thanks to you both!
Hi Rasmus,
The method you described is a lot more elegant compared to the what I described, I will be using your method it in the future.
Dan
Logic X, SD3, SD2, iMac
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