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I understand how the groove name abbreviations work, but I must say it seems to me, a very eye-straining, painstaking, time-consuming way of doing something seemingly simple: finding the groove you’ve used in the library.
Clearly the most convenient method would be if we could drag the groove back onto the EZ Drummer interface somehow, or even just copy the file name and paste it into a Find Groove Window, that would then open the library with the groove highlighted.
Maybe a change of this nature is not feasible with the nature of the plug in. (Just as keyboard shortcuts have been said not to be, but O Merciful Zues how I wish there was a shortcut just for Play/Stop !) But that said, would it really be so hard for you to generate a list of grooves abbreviations and post them somewhere as a bookmark-able web page, or save off as a PDF file, to Search the page for the abbreviation to find the full names of the categories? The technology for that seems to be pretty much in the Cut / Paste / Post category. And it could really save people a lot of time and busywork.
Thanks for your consideration!
Brian
There was a post about the logic of the names, how the tag broke down into MIDI set, song, groove, etc.
Maybe somebody could write a short algorithm in some simple computer language to take a groove name and interpret where it could be re-found.
Shouldn’t be a big job if the naming logic is consistent. I’m sure people would chip in with library naming info to help as it progressed. What is best to write it in so it can be used on Mac and PC? Java?
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SD2.3, NYII, C&V, MC, MF, ED, Latin Perc, Twisted, Pop, N1H, Electronic, Classic, Funkmasters, Rock Solid, Blues, Indie-Folk.
Hi,
please see the reply from Rogue here:
http://www.toontrack.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=81397&mpage=1
Originally, I believe the naming formatting and convention comes from not all hosts being able to pick up/receive more than a certain amount of characters upon drag-and-drop MIDI from the plugin.
BR,
John
John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor
yes, originally, but nowadays the most constrained of them all is Logic 8, still limited to a whooping 31-char restriction for region names: yet it would be nice if “A_S4_V_v05” was actually spelled “americana straight 4/4 verse 5″… and that would only be 30 chars!
yet it would be nice if “A_S4_V_v05” was actually spelled “americana straight 4/4 verse 5”
And would that be the straight ‘Ballad’, straight ‘Midtempo’, or straight ‘Uptempo’ category? And which of the 6 songs in those 3 tempo categories specifically?
Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor
ORIGINAL: Jym Feat
yet does A_S4_V_v05 tell us more than that?
Yes.
It tells us it is the ‘Ballad’, Straight 4/4, ‘Push 76 BPM’ song, Verse, Variation 05, default velocity (0).
For, say, Americana Midtempo, Straight 4/4, Amtrak Dbl Time 97 BPM, Verse, Variation 05, it would look like this:
A_S4b_Vc_V05
Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor
@Scott said:
ORIGINAL: Jym Feat
yet does A_S4_V_v05 tell us more than that?
Yes.
It tells us it is the ‘Ballad’, Straight 4/4, ‘Push 76 BPM’ song, Verse, Variation 05, default velocity (0).For, say, Americana Midtempo, Straight 4/4, Amtrak Dbl Time 97 BPM, Verse, Variation 05, it would look like this:
A_S4b_Vc_V05
Great!!! So there IS a translation table!!!
You were able to reveal an amazing amount of detail from that small groove label.
Can y’all please make it/them available? Perhaps, if only as an update to each library and MIDI pack?
Thanks.
A side note for EZdrummer 2 users; if you have a MIDI block that comes from EZdrummer in your host, you can use that MIDI in the Tap2Find window to find matching beats. Simplest way is to drag it to the Drop Zone (if your host supports drag and drop).
If you haven’t altered it, one of the 100% matches will be the groove. Right click on it and select “Show in Browser” and you’ll see the groove in it’s folder structure.
If you have a MIDI block on EZdrummer 2’s song track that you want to find the origin of, right click it, select “Find/Show in Browser” and it will be revealed.
Just a tip of the day
Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack
It’s 2024 and this is still an issue. Honestly if I had known before purchasing, it would have been a deal-breaker for me, especially since they are more than capable of providing this feature and haven’t bothered all this time – over a decade now? Too late I guess.
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