Yes, DP 7.24. But this doesn’t really matter as MIDI in DP hasn’t changed in ages so you’d have to go back to DP 4 to find any difference in MIDI.

As far as record disabling a track

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If I record disable a track then I no longer hear the LIVE ezplayer performance.
The DP midi track has to be recored enabled in order to here the live ezplayer parts and continue to make edits, etc..
There is no “through” mode wherein a midi track can act like an aux input. If there were, then yes, I could here the live ezplayer and hit record on let’s say a guitar part, WITHOUT recording the midi from ezplayer into the midi track.
As it stands now, when I hit record for any reason in DP, it records the live ezplayer data into the DP midi track that was formerly monitoring the through put of ezplayer. But now, that same midi track contains midi IN DP and that doubles with midi from ezplayer creating a nice sounding..yuck!. Each subsequent recording pass will add more midi to DP and after a few passes, it will be 4- or 5 of the same notes on top of each other, plus the live ezplayer performance. If I shut OFF the play back button in DP, then I will not hear the DP midi and will successfully hear the ezplayer live performance. However, each record pass will add yet another layer of un needed midi into those record enabled track in DP, even with their outputs shut off.
I don;t know what would happen if 30-40 takes of midi piled onto itself in a DP midi track while monitoring live ezplayer, (with the DP midi play buttons off) and recording. For one thing, if I ever accidentally turned the midi play button on, it would be a horrendous noise.
I suppose I could periodically erase the midi data, but this seems silly to have to do.
For now, my solution has been to just record the midi, even if it isn;t final ezplayer data, and shut off the record enable data in the DP tracks that ezplayer was feeding into.
Then , when I hit record for a guitar part, there is no addition data being recorded into the DP midi tracks as they are no longer record enabled, just playing back. And, when I want to resume work in ezplayer, I erase the midi in the DP midi track and go back to live through put from ezplayer.
But there needs to be a more elegant solution I think.

I found no new midi track or anything like that in the core midi window.
I also tried to set the input on the midi track to “none”. There is no such option in DP. I tried setting it to a non function midi channel and that did not work either.
Within the parameters of my problem, the solution would appear to be that ezplayer could route directly to ezdrummer without the need for a midi track in between them.
But I cannot see how this will work as your manual states that ezplayer is not an audio plug in, but instead, it is a midi player, therefore it needs to route into a midi track. VI’s in DP cannot receive midi directly into their plug in windows and need a midi track to route into them.
So, unless I am mistaken, there needs to be an interim midi track between ezplayer and any VI.
EZ drummer, being an audio plug in, has NO input choices available in DP, only output.
So yes indeed, please do further research on this when in your studio or wherever it is you do such things. As for now, there seems to be a need for a midi track; DP cannot route NO midi to a midi track; and, if the midi input is routing other than to receive from ezplayer, there will be no ezplayer data going through to the ez drummer VI or any other VI.

I am not sure I get what duplicating the track will do, (I’ll have to ponder that one), but yes, I already mentioned play dis-abling the midi track. However, like I mentioned before, what happens when 20 guitar takes create 20 overdubs of midi onto the interim midi track?
Of course, I could set DP to NOT be in overdub record mode, at which point each new midi take would erase the one before, as a matter of fact, that might also keep any midi doubling from occurring! Pretty interesting thought. However, I almost ALWAYS work in overdub record mode. Changing that would be too big an inconvenience, plus risk deleting good data and midi in the event of accidents etc I am really used to overdub record mode.

Let me ask you something, how do other DAWs work with Ezplayer?
Do they have some sort of ability to create a midi thru track or do their VI’s receive midi directly?
I am curious. Please let me know what DP cannot do that is making this process less than ideal?

By the way, I am absolutely loving your product man.
I am a long time established producer with major cuts etc,
And I have always busted my ass to make drum tracks.
This is really cool stuff and I will most likely upgrade myself all the way to your flagship system before long.
I am having a blast working with ezplayer AND ez drummer. And once I get it all slamming, I will mix and match with programs like Ocean way.
One other question?
All the expansion drummer packs for ez drummer, and the expansion midi packs, they all sound the same in superior?
Are they the same at first but then way more editable? Or, if you use the ezdrummer expansion kits, do you lose all the edibility inherent in Superior?
And one last thing.
The concept for EZplayer could easily be used on many Vi’s such as Basses, orchestras, anything!
Have you guys thought of expanding this product to it’s infinite degree with libraries of midi performances of other instruments, all using the ezplayer format, (modified as need to Bass etc)?
COULD BE VERY COOL MAN!

Ok brotha, well, you let me know if you think of a better workaround.
And I still have the other problem with 3rd party midi libraries playing back different in the tracks than in the preview top section.
As far as that tight lipped future of ezplayer, consider me a big fan of ez and down for anything I could do to help…, I have been a beta tester, and you’re welcome to hit me as your fav DP beta tester guy if you’d like…:)

I wonder if my brainstorming insanity would make you as crazy as I am..lol..

Thanks for your time by the way,

Dave

I will indeed contact you on the beta testing. I just bought the DKFH expansion and I am totally blown away. I am just loving your product man. I am going to save so much time with this amazing stuff, wow! I already made good drums before with lots of elbow grease. I am doing a rock record very soon and I am thinking I might not need to bring in the drummer I was going to use, we’ll see,….sorry drummers..lol.
But I do have one question.
I noticed that in ezdrummer, there is that humanize function.
Do the grooves in ezplayer utilize that humanize function/ feel? I see no option for it in ezplayer. I tried switching it in and out of the ezdrummer plug when it was being triggered by ezplayer and heard no difference.
I hope the humanize is the default feel coming from ezplayer…is it?
My initial tests seem to indicate that the grooves from ezplayer are slightly stiffer and not humanized compared to the same grooves directly fro the ezdrummer plug WITH humanize turned on. If I am right, I find this disappointing. I didn’t go crazy doing this test so I could be wrong. Please advise.

Hmmmm,
Interesting.
I could have sworn that when I dragged them into midi tracks with and without humanize, there were playback differences.
SO you are saying that for ex, a snare with humanize on will play at the exact same timing point as a non-humanize snare, but with humanize ON, each hit of the snare triggers a different snare sample to sound different and less robotic?

Also, does the ezplayer work with this? Meaning, if the ezdrummer plug in has humanize ON, ezplayer will also trigger different snares on each hit, not as a result of anything ezplayer is doing, but as a result of the ezdrummer plug in being set to humanize?

I think I just answered my own question by manually playing ezplayer with and without humanize, but you can verify if you like
By the way, I sent in my beta email…:)

Dave

Cool man, yeah , that humanize can be a mixed blessing unless recorded to audio. I often make tons of stem mixes, depending on how big and well budgeted an artist is. If allowed, I make tons of stems for live shows. Obviously, having midi randomness isn;t good when trying to make pass after pass, not wanting drum variations beyond the original random hits in the main mix. The passes might have no strings or guitar, bass and drums etc….
I would suppose one need to either record the midi to audio and then do audio edits of one;s favorite randomness sections, or, have the random triggering locked to time code so that, for ex, verse 2, beat 4, always hits with the same randomizer. Does the superior drummer get into it in that much detail? If not, is the randomness generation locked to play start such that if I start play back from bar one, it will always randomize the same way each pass?
Also, i am bsy tonight buying expansion pakc. Are the kit pieces interchangeable from one kt to another? If not, why not?
For example, the drums from hell snares are a bit thin and edgy for non metal styles I would like to be able to use a snare from another kit in the drums from hell etc.
Thanks for your answers to all of this by the way. And let me know if I am bugging you with too many questions…

Just inquisitive and always thinking of new ways to use things.