Topic: How do I deal with simultaneous hits?

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Replied January 25, 2010 at 10:19 #1931941

John
Moderator

I would use the same file for two separate Inputs in your case, instead of one Input with several Instruments.

Best Regards,
Jhon

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

Replied January 25, 2010 at 17:48 #1931945

Mojave
Participant

Thanks John,
Have you tried that? did, When I selected Hats and highlighted the kick area, I had a screech that would kill a witch come out of my speakers. Now that was on the same file I was already working with. I will load a new file to see if this idea works. The filters for hat vs Kick are used correct? in order to select the transient. Will the high velocity of the Kick and snare cause an upset with the filtering process? Will I need to adjust the filters of say the Hat in order to allow it to accept the kick and snare triggers since they are overlapping on the Hat at the same time?

Thanks

Victor Mason
Mojave Desert
Apple Valley CA

Replied January 25, 2010 at 21:04 #1931948

John
Moderator

Just tried to add the same (your yt.wav) WAV file thrice and selcting a different Instrument for each instance.
I did not spend more than a few minutes on this but I attached the MIDI converted from your WAV file.
I had to adjust the Hihat velocity on the downbeats, of course.

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

Replied January 25, 2010 at 21:54 #1931950

Mojave
Participant

Well Thanks for the old Collage Try. I got that far on my own. I’m going to have to add the hats at the Kick and Snare separately as you suggested since they are not in the Midi you sent either. Check the audio i was able to get on my own. still missing the hats on the kick and snare.

http://mojaveampworks.com/snd/testyt.mp3

Campare to the yt wave file.

Victor Mason
Mojave Desert
Apple Valley CA

Replied January 25, 2010 at 22:10 #1931952

Scott
Moderator

I just checked John’s MIDI file here. I do have hat hits (note 24) on the downbeats.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

Replied January 25, 2010 at 22:35 #1931955

Mojave
Participant

Ok, i see there are hats, they are on the wrong note on my sequencer. I dropped them in EZ player and I heard them. Still not in the kick and snare but I can pencil them in on the midid editor on Logic. Thanks much.

Victor Mason
Mojave Desert
Apple Valley CA

Replied January 26, 2010 at 00:39 #1931956

John
Moderator

Hmmm?
if I load the MIDI file in S2 or EZPP and render to audio using internal Bounce, it sounds like attached.

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

Replied January 26, 2010 at 01:28 #1931957

Mojave
Participant

So I have to ask, When adjusting the Velocity thresholds limits, what does this do for the velocity? In the Ask video, they point out this would “Smooth out the Hi Hats”. Exactly how does setting the lower threshold and upper threshold do that?
Thanks again.

Did you do the Down Beat Hi Hats on a second pass?

Victor Mason
Mojave Desert
Apple Valley CA

Replied January 26, 2010 at 08:31 #1931960

John
Moderator

I attach the DT project to this post so you can see what I did.
Again, I did not spend many minutes on this, so it is not optimally done but it shows how I used the same file for three Inputs and Instruments, it shows Adding and Excluding hits, editing velocity values and partial selections of a file.

You will be asked for the file location upon opening the DT project.

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

Replied January 26, 2010 at 16:19 #1931962

Mojave
Participant

Interesting. Did you make the threshold edits or did that happen automatically when rendered? Also, I was looking at the three filters. Each one is green? Was that because you loaded them three separate times or did you add them at the opening?.

Victor Mason
Mojave Desert
Apple Valley CA

Replied January 26, 2010 at 18:59 #1931963

John
Moderator

I made the Threshold edits.

Was that because you loaded them three separate times

Yes, as separate Inputs.

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

Replied January 27, 2010 at 05:01 #1931969

Mojave
Participant

SUCCESS !!!

My first conversion working with Drum Tracker. I made two passes, one for Hats, one for Kick and Snare. Bounced them out in SP2 via Toontrack Solo into a wav file. Took the wave file, added some Lexicon Vintage Plate Verb.

http://mojaveampworks.com/snd/yt.wav

http://mojaveampworks.com/snd/straightmixconverted.mp3

Thanks much for the help John.

Victor Mason
Mojave Desert
Apple Valley CA
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