Topic: [Garageband] finding groves in groove browser

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Replied January 10, 2009 at 02:11 #1925668
Joseph Lofft
Participant
Since nobody has responded to this in the forum, I figured I would open an official support case. I did this and was directed to http://www.obedia.com where I received the following response:

No definitive answer and they closed the case so I can’t add any comments to it!

How can they not have recognized the format? They have no access to it? WTF!!! This is very simple to reproduce:
This is what happens when you farm out support to third party. Come on Toontrack, you have a great product, now support it!
Replied January 10, 2009 at 02:50 #1925669

Brad
Participant

OK… think I’ve figured this out… EP_Mb_G04_10H is EZD Pop Rock (EP or EPD) M is the style in this case MOTOWN but it’s in the second bank (4/4 SHUFFLE 50-130BPM) or the “b” bank so it’s “Mb” G04 = GROOVE04, 10H = Variation 10 Hats 8th….

does that sound right? does it make sense?
I’ll work on the other one through another glass of wine… Friday you know…

Could you put a screen print up of the other one? (honest I’m still on my first glass); the closest thing I’ve found is EP (or EPD)_F-2f2_TBFb (not T8Fb)
Which is EZD Pop/Rock > 4/4 Straight 50-140BPM >FILLS > 2/4 FILLS2 > Tom Buzz Fill3.

Sound right? Off base?

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Replied January 10, 2009 at 04:32 #1925672

Joseph Lofft
Participant

Thanks!!!! You gave me enough information regarding the “banks” to figure it out…

FYI: I typed the first pattern in wrong…it wasn’t EP_F_2F2_T8Fb, it was EP_F_2F2_TBFb just as in your screenshot.

Thanks again!!!

Replied January 12, 2009 at 12:54 #1925681

Rogue
Moderator

as per answer above and elsewhere on this board, the shorthand describes the folder of origination and exact MIDI file.

So, for example, EP is from pop rock and F for Fills, M for Motown. b is the second instance in the folder so Mb would be second ‘Motown’ header down.

Is this complicated? not really, once you’ve got the hang of it.
Is this convenient? yes, if anyone can suggest a better way to discriminate non equivocally over 40.000 grooves (at the current stage) we’d like to hear it 🙂

… but you are right that all advisers working for us should be familiar with the nomenclature. To be fair, and as you can see in the case resolution, he did state exactly what he was going to do and that is probe a tech at a level above. That was right before the weekend so it should be no surprise you haven’t heard back from us/them until now… we are made of flesh and blood after all 😉

Best Regards, RM

Rogue Marechal - Toontrack
Configuration Manager

Replied January 12, 2009 at 13:35 #1925682

Joseph Lofft
Participant

First, the naming convention used for the groove is fine. I’m also satisfied with the explanation I received.

What I am not satisfied with is the fact that the case was “Closed” even though I had no answer AND the fact that it is obvious the technician didn’t even try and replicate my issue because if he had it is obvious he would have seen the pattern naming convention.

I did search for an answer on these boards (specifically searched the FAQ) with no luck before making my original post. As I heard nothing on the issue for 8 days, I then opened the support case.

Replied January 12, 2009 at 13:43 #1925683

Rogue
Moderator

to clarify, I do not disagree with you. And apologize for not having the time to answer your query last week.

On the subject of ‘farming out’ support, it is important to know that Obedia has only started on Toontrack support last Monday so it will take a bit of time for things to fall into place. Specifically they have to source from me (or other members of the development team) the answers they cannot provide confidently. Rest assure your comment is very useful to assess how our support can be improved.

Best Regards, RM

Rogue Marechal - Toontrack
Configuration Manager

Replied June 13, 2009 at 20:19 #1928354

Jarl Hermansson
Participant

The quick and simple solution is a web-service. I.e. put up feature here in the support area, where the user enters the name e.g. EP_Mb_G04_10H. and the application specifies the name and how to find it.

A better solution is to add a “reverse drag & drop” feature to EZDrummer. If the user drags the pattern from Cubase track (or whatever) to the EZDrummer window, then highlight the correct name in the library!

Replied June 13, 2009 at 22:26 #1928356

Dave Modisette
Participant

A technique that I have developed for me is to use EZplayer Pro as a holding palatte to store grooves that I am using in a project. I drag grooves into the arranger view and drop them on to tracks there. I collect grooves for a verse and drop it into track 1, chorus and drop into track 2. Maybe the bridge will be track 3 and so on. Anything that sounds interesting goes into the collection. What you can do is rename the track to something that will give you an idea of where the grooves came from.

Now you can mix and match grooves inside of EZPP. Combine them. Pull pieces out of one and add it to another. And then drop the result into your final project.

In SONAR, when I do this and save the SONAR project, all of this information is also saved along with it and I can retrieve it at the same time I reopen the project.

Dave Modisette www.gatortraks.com www.plasticsamerica.com http://www.gatortraks.com/forum
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