SDX vs EZX Companion / Base Libraries?

[Michael]

Sorry if this is in the wrong place, but not sure where to put this…
Also, not sure exactly how to phrase the description of what I’m asking in the title.

Basically, what SDX/EZX libraries are “companion” libraries, or essentially constructed from the same base set of samples?
There are lots of options to buy here, and I don’t want to buy an EZX of something I essentially already own in SDX form.

http://www.toontrack.com/forum/requests-and-feedback/metal-machinery-sdx-upgraded-possibility/
In post #4, Admin Scott says:
“There are two product paths. EZdrummer Line of products and a Superior Drummer line of products…
Vintage Rock EZX – Custom & Vintage SDX
Pop/Rock EZX – NY Avatar (library that ships with S2)
Jazz EZX – Roots SDX
Nashville EZX – Music City SDX
Rock Solid EZX – The Warehouse SDX
Metalheads EZX – Metal Foundry SDX
There is always more content (samples, channels, Combined Presets, MIDI) in SDX libraries than in the EZdrummer line version.”

http://www.toontrack.com/forum/superior-pre-sales/music-city-sdx-versus-nashville-ezx/
Again, Admin Scott states:
“This is the same situation as with the Vintage Rock EZX vs. C&V/Vintage Add-on or EZdrummer vs. the S2 Avatar kit as well as the rumored Jazz SDX vs. the Jazz EZX. They are sounds taken from the same sessions.
The SDX has more kit pieces, albeit only a few in the MC USA SDX case, as well as more mic channels and more articulations per kit piece, 24-bit, etc.”

I don’t want to waste money, and since I own “Metal Foundry”, it seems from the above posts I would be wasting $89 if I bought “Metalheads EZX”, or buying Pop/Rock EZX would be a waste of $89 just from owning SD2.

So, is there a list already assembled somewhere where I could see what SDX/EZX titles are based on the same “base” set of samples or recording session so I don’t waste nearly $100 a pop for things I may already own?

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[Juicy]

There is no specific list but with a bit of checking under the surface you can suss it out, i think you got most of them.
Indiependant has an ezx companion too.
Progressive Foundry obviously has its cut down version.
I liked it when they released them together and made it clear rather than run under the radar and
a year later pops the SDX version with no specific info (until we all made a noise about it)

[Michael]

Ok, thanks… Anyone want to help build that list here, with others able to contribute &/or disagree? Maybe have this particular post the link given in the future when a similar situation comes up? Also, maybe there is one no one is remembering off the top of their head … I’ll try to start, but this is only from what I’ve READ, not personal experience:

juicy, I saw “Indiependent SDX” but not a EZX version, did I just miss it?

• Vintage Rock EZX < Custom & Vintage SDX
• Pop/Rock EZX < NY Avatar (library that ships with S2)
• Jazz EZX < Roots SDX
• Nashville EZX < Music City SDX
• Rock Solid EZX < The Warehouse SDX
• Metalheads EZX < Metal Foundry SDX
• Jazz EZX (below) < Jazz SDX
• EZdrummer < S2 Avatar
• Progressive EZX < Progressive Foundry SDX

[Michael]

As I said, I’m just re-posting what I’ve already seen in different places, but something just caught my eye…
• Jazz EZX < Roots SDX
• Jazz EZX < Jazz SDX They were both written by “Admin Scott”, so not sure what’t up with this…

[shawn Kellerman]

I demoed ezdrummer and was quite impressed but superior drummer seems even better
Does anyone know if superior drummer has the option of making a groove loop simple or busy like ezdrummer does?
I have looked for hours on the YouTube tutorials and can’t seem to find the answer
Thanks for the help

[Scott Eshleman]

@Shawn_21 said:
I demoed ezdrummer and was quite impressed but superior drummer seems even better
Does anyone know if superior drummer has the option of making a groove loop simple or busy like ezdrummer does?
I have looked for hours on the YouTube tutorials and can’t seem to find the answer
Thanks for the help  

If you are referring to the [Edit Play Style] means of making a groove loop simple or busy in EZDrummer2,
SuperiorDrummer2 does not currently have this functionality.

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[igniemasli]

Along the same lines, does anyone know if the Big Rock Drums EZX or the Seventies Rock EZX are available in expanded version as an SDX pack? Or, if not, are there any plans to do so? Thanks!

[John]

Big Rock Drums EZX and the Seventies Rock EZX do not have any big brother SDX:s, which they are derived from.

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[Michael]

Just an update:

• Vintage Rock EZX < Custom & Vintage SDX
• Pop/Rock EZX < NY Avatar (library that ships with S2)
• Jazz EZX < Roots SDX
• Nashville EZX < Music City SDX
• Rock Solid EZX < The Warehouse SDX
• Metalheads EZX < Metal Foundry SDX
• Jazz EZX < Jazz SDX
• EZdrummer < S2 Avatar
• Progressive EZX < Progressive Foundry SDX • Big Rock Drums EZX = No SDX Equivalent
• Seventies Rock EZX = No SDX Equivalent

[rayandexter1]

Along the same lines, does anyone know if the Big Rock Drums EZX or the Seventies Rock EZX are available in expanded version as an SDX pack? Or, if not, are there any plans to do so? Thanks!

No, they do not have any expanded versions SDX:s. And as far as I know there’s no need in plans to develop it.

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[Michael]

Just doing a little cleanup (please feel free to add/correct the list):

• Vintage Rock EZX < Custom & Vintage SDX

• Pop/Rock EZX < NY Avatar (library that ships with S2)

• Jazz EZX < Roots SDX

• Nashville EZX < Music City SDX

• Rock Solid EZX < The Warehouse SDX

• Metalheads EZX < Metal Foundry SDX

• Jazz EZX < Jazz SDX

• EZdrummer < S2 Avatar

• Progressive EZX < Progressive Foundry SDX

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• Big Rock Drums EZX = No SDX Equivalent

• Seventies Rock EZX = No SDX Equivalent

[smithclarkson001]

This seems like it should be a simple question but I am just still looking for clarification. I currently have SD 2.3 and am awaiting arrival of NY Vol. 2. I am looking to expand and see that for some of the EZX sets there are similar SDX sets (i.e. Nashville and Music city, Metal Machine and Metal Foundry).

What are the major differences since the SDX are approximately $100 more expensive?

Are the EZX sets a good way to get additional kits into my library or are they somehow not as good as SDX?

For example, I am intersted in the POP! EZX and there doesn’t seems to be an equivalent SDX. Is there anything about ezx functionality in SDX that I need to be concerned with? Thanks!

[John]

Michael wrote:

Just doing a little cleanup (please feel free to add/correct the list):

• Vintage Rock EZX < Custom & Vintage SDX

• Pop/Rock EZX < NY Avatar (library that ships with S2)

• Jazz EZX < Roots SDX

• Nashville EZX < Music City SDX

• Rock Solid EZX < The Warehouse SDX

• Metalheads EZX < Metal Foundry SDX

• Jazz EZX < Jazz SDX

• EZdrummer < S2 Avatar

• Progressive EZX < Progressive Foundry SDX

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• Big Rock Drums EZX = No SDX Equivalent

• Seventies Rock EZX = No SDX Equivalent

You added Jazz EZX twice and a Jazz SDX I haven’t heard of 😉

BR,
John

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Technical Advisor

[John]

What are the major differences since the SDX are approximately $100 more expensive?

EZX:s are usually a tenth or less (from a quick guesstimate) of the size of it’s SDX, so naturally there is more content.

You have more available instruments and articulations, microphones and bleed. In short.

BR,
John

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[Maximiliano Ayax Bolig]

Hi everyone.

I’ve read that INDIEPENDENT SDX comes from the same session of INDIE FOLK, only with more drum kits, instruments and grooves.

So we could add it on the list, right?

• INDIE FOLK EZX < INDIEPENDENT SDX

 

 

[zvenx]

This is one of my biggest confusions with buying packs for SD3.

Has there been and EZX that later was released as part of an SDX?

Clearly I prefer to buy them as SDX’s but since afaik there is no upgrade price if I bought the EZX then an SDX of it came out, I would prefer not to go this route?

Or is it safe to assume that any EZX that is part of an SDX it will come out as an SDX first?

And if it doesn’t (like UK Pop for instance, or Action or most specifically for this post Kicks and Snares)  it is unlikely to come out as an SDX ever?

Thanks

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