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will all EZD2 and SD2 grooves and kits work in SD3?
August 29, 2017
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I'm a total novice. I have both EZD2 and SD2, but still use mostly EZD2 because I find it more intuitive. Most of the grooves and kits I own were bought before I got SD2. They seem to be available in the SD2 interface.

Will all of the grooves and kits that I've purchased show up and be usable in SD3?

Thanks,
Michael

August 29, 2017
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Yes, EZX Grooves, SD2 Grooves and EZD2 MIDI grooves will all be useable and should be indexed and available in SD3.

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September 7, 2017
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Brad said
Yes, EZX Grooves, SD2 Grooves and EZD2 MIDI grooves will all be useable and should be indexed and available in SD3.  

Will all of the kits that I've purchased show up and be usable in SD3?

thanks.

Mauro.

September 7, 2017
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mauro cerzoso said

Will all of the kits that I've purchased show up and be usable in SD3?
 

Yes, your Superior 2 SDX:s will work with Superior 3. If you get any EZdrummer 2 EZX:s, they will work too.

BR,
John

September 10, 2017
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Yes, your Superior 2 SDX:s will work with Superior 3. If you get any EZdrummer 2 EZX:s, they will work too.

BR,
John  

hope the same is true for older EZX too ...

September 10, 2017
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profirhino said

hope the same is true for older EZX too ...  

All EZXs

September 10, 2017
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profirhino said

hope the same is true for older EZX too ...  

How old are these EZXs you are asking about?

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All EZXs  

good !
thanks,
Rhino

September 10, 2017
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How old are these EZXs you are asking about?  

why ?
going back till EZD1 ...
I kinda stopped buying more EzX some years ago and wait for SDX versions, makes no sense to pay twice.
An upgrade path EZX > SDX would bring in the money earlier for TT, plus pave the way for more SDX sales too, split expenses are easier to justify.

ymmv,
Rhino

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I believe as long as they have been updated to run in EZD2 they will be ok in SD3.

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September 10, 2017
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thanks Brad,
they should be current as of today.
I don't mind a few extra DLs and library updates for such a major version upgrade - as long as they basically work and I don't have to re-authorize 71 products offline all is good.
Rhino

In fact, what I'm looking forward to most are the engine- and UI updates, the great new kits will be a nice mid-term boost.

September 13, 2017
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E

profirhino said

good !
thanks,
Rhino  

Evil Drums SDX and EZD 1 kits do NOT load in SD3.
both are fine in SD2.
no updates for EZD 1 kits afaics, the Evil Drums 1.02 sound update does NOT solve the issue.

please fix !
thanks,
Rhino

September 13, 2017
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Evil Drums SDX and EZD 1 kits do NOT load in SD3.
both are fine in SD2.
no updates for EZD 1 kits afaics, the Evil Drums 1.02 sound update does NOT solve the issue.

please fix !
thanks,
Rhino  

The EZD1 kit should be listed as the Pop/Rock EZX and should have an update under that product. Does the Evil Drums not load at all or are you just referring to no new graphics? There are no new graphics for that SDX as it's a Platinum Samples product but it should load generic graphics.

September 13, 2017
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Scott said

The EZD1 kit should be listed as the Pop/Rock EZX and should have an update under that product. Does the Evil Drums not load at all or are you just referring to no new graphics? There are no new graphics for that SDX as it's a Platinum Samples product but it should load generic graphics.  

hello Scott,
thanks for your reply !
Both candidates show that overlay message "must be updated" that went away after installing the "sound updates" for all others.
These two (or 3,including Cocktail) don't load at all.
I only have EZD1 in my account, no Pop/Rock EZX.
Evil Drums is @ sound update 1.02 which does not do the trick.

thanks,
Rhino

September 13, 2017
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Scott said

The EZD1 kit should be listed as the Pop/Rock EZX and should have an update under that product. Does the Evil Drums not load at all or are you just referring to no new graphics? There are no new graphics for that SDX as it's a Platinum Samples product but it should load generic graphics.  

Hi Scott,

For me, Evil Drums does load up fine (with generic images, which isn't an issue). However, the library doesn't seem to show up in the options for adding X-drums or adding to stacks, which is very desirable.

Do you have any workaround for this (other than loading Evil Drums as the base library and adding everything else)?

Thanks,
Micah

September 13, 2017
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lightsoutat12 said

Hi Scott,

For me, Evil Drums does load up fine (with generic images, which isn't an issue). However, the library doesn't seem to show up in the options for adding X-drums or adding to stacks, which is very desirable.

Do you have any workaround for this (other than loading Evil Drums as the base library and adding everything else)?

Thanks,
Micah  

ah, I see, so those floating gizmos are considered generic images ?
stunning, innovative design - will make a lasting impression on clients !
you're right, so ED loads with these whatevers, but there's still that unnerving popup when loading.
and you're also correct - it does not show up in the kit piece browser.
May I suggest Toontrack & Platinum get together behind the scenes and fix this great library asap, should not be the end of the world, considering it's the only 3rd party library, and it will make both parties look more professional ...

Not even so little luck with EZD though, the drum kits are entirely absent, the Cocktail is in the list but shows the error overlay and then proceeds to nirvana.

thanks for pointing that out, Micah !
Rhino

September 13, 2017
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ah, I see, so those floating gizmos are considered generic images ?
stunning, innovative design - will make a lasting impression on clients !
you're right, so ED loads with these whatevers, but there's still that unnerving popup when loading.
and you're also correct - it does not show up in the kit piece browser.
May I suggest Toontrack & Platinum get together behind the scenes and fix this great library asap, should not be the end of the world, considering it's the only 3rd party library, and it will make both parties look more professional ...

Not even so little luck with EZD though, the drum kits are entirely absent, the Cocktail is in the list but shows the error overlay and then proceeds to nirvana.

thanks for pointing that out, Micah !
Rhino  

If you didn't upgrade from EZD1 to EZD2, then you wouldn't have the Pop/Rock EZX. Only EZXs will load in S3 so the original EZD1 (and Superior 1 sounds) won't load in S3. You can, of course, still load them in S2 so you'll still have access to them.

As for The Evil Drums SDX, Evil Drums is a Platinum Samples product. If Platinum Samples wants to produce an update to the library they are free to contact Toontrack and work on an update. For now, you'll just need to click the OK button when prompted to update. There will be an update to S3 to remove that prompt.

September 13, 2017
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no, of course I did not buy EZD 2.
why would I, I'm using the flagship, or so I thought.
how about a sound update that unlocks our bought content again, like you obviously did for the consumer product ?
going by what you wrote, it's not a tech problem, only a licensing oversight that should be easy enough to resolve.

about Evil Drums, I stand by what I wrote.
Resolving this issue quickly is very much in Toontrack's best interest as well, so this is not the time to point fingers.
I couldn't care less about pictures, but Micah's issue is a biggie.
don't know if there are other hidden issues yet, still will be downloading for a few days.

at first glance SD3 seems to be a really healthy upgrade that addresses lots of age-old user complaints in pretty elegant ways, so why stop at 95% instead of going all Mercedes and fixing these annoyances, pdf manual, maybe one or two others, once and for all the way that benefits your users ?
small issues for you maybe, big arrrrrrrrrrrrrgh for us.

peace,
Rhino

oh, while we're at it - that downloader thing not having an option for offline authorization caused quite some headscratching here, too.

September 13, 2017
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I'm not a programmer so I don't know the technical reasons why the EZD1 libraries can't be updated to work in S3. I've just been told then can't be.

As for Evil Drums, again, I'm relaying the dialogue regarding the situation as it was explained to me by Toontrack. I really have nothing else to add. You can contact them directly via the FAQ section of the forum if you'd like to discuss it further with them.

Also, here's a link to the S3 manual they can be browsed from any online computer

https://www.toontrack.com/manual/superior-drummer-3/

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Scott said
I'm not a programmer so I don't know the technical reasons why the EZD1 libraries can't be updated to work in S3. I've just been told then can't be.

As for Evil Drums, again, I'm relaying the dialogue regarding the situation as it was explained to me by Toontrack. I really have nothing else to add. You can contact them directly via the FAQ section of the forum if you'd like to discuss it further with them.

Also, here's a link to the S3 manual they can be browsed from any online computer

https://www.toontrack.com/manual/superior-drummer-3/  

may I politely suggest to read what I wrote, please ?
going by your own replies above, the EZD 1 library dilemma was solved by giving EZD 2 users access to that ominous Pop/Rock EZX, which again by your own words, loads fine in S3.0.
So no tech trickery is needed at all, just treat us few EZD1 + S3 users the same as the EZD 2 consumers and give us access to that Pop/Rock EZX too, easy, quick and only fair. Make it NFR if you want.
We won't get any extra content that way, we only won't get locked out artificially from content we paid for (and not least, helped make the company become what it is now. Hell, I got onboard with the S1 launch, and currently have 77 registered products in my account !)

and I explained in detail above and in the manual thread why there needs to be a pdf version for offline users, how downloading of the online help doesn't work and how it would be way over the head of the average user anyway ?
So yet another link to that online thing is not helpful or on topic at all.

I think these are very reasonable requests, and super easy to solve too.
Here you are with what looks like a really solid, major update - so why not work out the few little kinks together with us customers, instead of following the reflex to brush off any and all justified criticism with strawman arguments ?
Hell, we've been in this same boat together for 13 years or more now, about time to talk straight.

peace,
Rhino

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