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Key details (midi note) of instruments in EZDrummer2?
December 27, 2017
5:56 pm CET
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Catspaw
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New to the forum. New to EZD2. I use FL Studio 12. When using EZD2 in FL Studio, I noticed the midi note of an instrument in EZD2 does not correspond to the midi note required to play it in the piano roll of FL.

For instance, with the jazz basic kit, the bass drum is midi note C1 according to EZD2. I checked by right-clicking the drum and then selecting "details". However, when I click on C1 in the piano roll, a cymbal (Hi Hat, I think) is played.

What am I missing? I don't know if this is something in FL or in EZD2. I know I can map things and such. I would want to set a pad on my keyboard to play a particular instrument. But, if I don't know what key is supposed to play what instrument, it will be nothing but constant guess work trying to map to a pad on my keyboard.

I tried searching, but, didn't get much of a match for info that may already be on here.

December 28, 2017
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Well, apparently I've answered my own question. Right-clicking on an instrument gets you a menu. Click on "Details" and you get note info.

The "Key" info is either wrong or I'm misunderstanding what it means. If you click on (toggle) "Key", you will get the actual midi "Note".

In the case of the basic bass drum, the "Key" is designated as C1, but the actual midi note is 36. 36 corresponds directly with the note played in my piano roll.

So, I apparently have no idea what "Key" is supposed to be.

January 2, 2018
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Henrik
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Key is just the name of the piano key that corresponds to the MIDI note number, useful for those who wants to know the piano key name of the MIDI note. Was that what you didn't understand?

January 10, 2018
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Thank you for the response. No, I understand the "Key" is the musical value. What I haven't understood is ... The EZ bass drum is C1, midi note 36. When I click on, place a note, whatever on the piano roll at C1, some other instrument plays. If I want to play the kick I have to play something like C3 or C4 (don't remember exactly.) It's like EZ is transposed by two or three octaves.

Seems to me that C1(36) is C1. If the bass drum is C1 and C1 is played, then the bass should play. But it doesn't. Piano roll is playing C1, EZ bass is set to C1, and EZ (or FL) decides it's going to play something OTHER than C1.

I can transpose the notes in FL studio by changing the root note in EZ (using as a VST). Then everything lines up. Simple fix I suppose.

But, what's the point in having a standard (MIDI) that you have to clean up/fix. I want to spend time making music, not trouble shooting VST/DAW inconsistencies.

I think I've finally identified all the informational displays now. So, I'll go back in and make some tests to see if I can identify who's doing exactly what.

January 10, 2018
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Well, for what's it's worth .... I found that FL studio has C3 as midi note 36. So, EZ appears to be doing it's job.

There could be some unbeknownst setting, that I'm not aware of at this time, that causes the piano roll to have the map it has.

At least posting this helped me line up the problem for myself and made me dig for better understanding. I now know more about my system than I did and that's always a good thing. Who knows, maybe it will answer some one else's question some time.

[next time I'll work harder before posting ... that math thing needed to post is hard ....]

I will also add for informational purposes, that it appears there's a discrepancy in the mfg. industry for where octaves are placed. So, there is no violation of the standard. Both FL and EZ drummer, while placing the octaves at different points, are both correct.

Consequently, this is nothing more than an adjustment for the system/equipment and not some error in compatibility.

January 11, 2018
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Catspaw said
Well, for what's it's worth .... I found that FL studio has C3 as midi note 36. So, EZ appears to be doing it's job.

What you discovered is that there are really two standards here, Roland thinks that middle of the piano is C4, according to Yamaha it is C3. Different DAWs has implemented one of these two standards, hence the confusion... If only people and companies could be agreeing more with each other, we would have a better world 🙂

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