Round robin and velocity layers for own samples? – Superior Drummer 3

[Grindelfinn]

Hi guys,
great plugins so far, BUT I would also REALLY like to use my own samples – without the kit sounding like a machinegun!
For my own samples I have recorded 4 hits on everything in 4 velocity levels, but all I see in Superior Drummer 3 is the option to add ONE sample at a time – with no variation?
I there is a way, please tell me …
I tried the checkboxes “Randomise Hits” and “Use alternate hits” but those are only for Superior Drummer samples I guess.
The problem of the monotone sound is even described in the tooltip of Use-alternate-hits:
“ON: use random hits from the sample pool. OFF: Only one sound for machine gun effect”

Is there really no way to build such a sample pool for the personal samples?
And if not – will this come in the next update or at some time in 2018? I thought this would be quite a basic feature …

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Thanked by: Bob Reader

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[John]

Hi,

not saying there’s no room for improvement but please do not forget that Superior Drummer 3 is not your regular sample player, it’s a virtual drummer/drum studio with all those sampled instruments through all microphones, with features and functions centered around that and the Toontrack expansions. The feature to add your own samples is pretty new in the Superior line, so you can’t really compare it to e.g. Kontakt or simliar with regards to conventional sampler functions.

Stacking your imported samples should get you nearer, though. Did you try that? Use the Velocity Gate to set the different samples’ Velocity trigger areas.

As for what may or may not come in future updates; apart from bug fixes, such things have always been communicated via the web site, not commented here on the Forum.
This is the ‘Requests & Feedback’ section though, so it’s indeed the right place to ask for new features.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[Metaludo]

I was looking for the same feature. SD3 is really a good product and i would really appreciate this too.

[djabthrash]

+1

[trickeyd]

+1

Well this logic must already exist in the app, so I’d imagine it’s mainly a matter of creating an intuitive ui for it. Not that that is a small task… But being able to construct your own kits with the same depth as the existing ones would just be stunning!

TBH – I bought the software a week ago over the competitors when I saw i could import samples, solely because I assumed this would be possible.

Could someone post a link to the existing feature request please, so I can +1 there too?

Many thanks!

[trickeyd]

Thanks for the tip on the velocity gate BTW – it will be a lot of work doing it that way, but being incredibly granular, and having a new sample per 3/4 velocity values should get me a decent bit of the way there.

Is there a limit to stack size? Is there any effect to latency with larger stacks?

Thanks again!

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[John]

Hi trickeyd,

IIRC the maximum number of stacks is 128. Just tried stacking 60 sounds before I got tired…

Since all sounds are loaded into RAM, there should be no latency impact.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[azzazzcontrcazz]

Hi,

The following is just a personal opinion and a personal observation “as” user of this product.

People want to customize their “own” kit and this issues with samples that “don’t follow” velocity volume is incredibly annoying but useful to sell more expansions and have a better control of your products, it’s understandable… it’s business.

There are “millions of mode/methods” to implement this features in 20 minutes.. just 20 minutes…

a batch import that “ASK” HOW MUCH layer x velocity you want to create ?…

To improve machine gun effects you can easly add a Filter cutoff modulation control based on velocity “with 3 different shape”

Or… you can add a low cut filter/ Low passfilter linked to velocity “create before on import.

And another millions of methods and strategies.. but it’s understandable that you want to sell SD4 and 5 and 6 and 7 before to implement this simple features. Anyway is a good software but it’s not understandable why some features are incredible missed.

• This post was modified 3 years, 1 month ago by azzazzcontrcazz.

[Scott Distelhurst]

Well, aren’t we entitled?

 

Maybe go start your own company and design the software that YOU want if it’s sooooo easy.

 

Have a nice day!

[mariannekhos3]

+1

[jjaann]

I also would like this feature.

[Conan the Barbarian]

I also would appreciate this feature as SD3 does not have every instrument or sound desired on my drum kit.

[geodan]

I, too, would like this feature.

[Conan the Barbarian]

Yes. Superior drummer three does not have octobon/rocket Tom sounds so I bought some and recorded my own. I wish I could at least put seven different samples into superior drummer three and use them instead obituaries g drumagog or use reasample in reaper. It would be much easier to use the superior drummer three for all of my recorded samples. One shots just don’t cut it.

[John]

Conan the Barbarian wrote:

Superior drummer three does not have octobon/rocket Tom sounds

Hi,

just a heads up that the Hansa and Fields of Rock SDX:s have Octobans (each a set of 4), plus the Reggae EZX (set of 2). The two SDX:s also have Rototoms.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[Bob Reader]

I would also like this feature

[Author]

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