RET Percussion, Alesis Trigger IO and DFHS (Video)

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  • Damian Blunt
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    Fantastic demo Tony – looks like you’ve got the drums working really well with dfhs
     
    (I really like the Beatles medley too!)

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    Joe
    Participant

    Very nicely done!

    Question about the Trigger iO.  First, what hihat foot controller are you using, and second, how good is the range from tight through through the levels of closed/openess?

    I have the Roland FD-7 with MIDI signal generated by the Roland TD-10 brain, and it goes from tight to open 4 a bit quick.  Getting though inbetween sounds is kind of tricky. (and I know it is the hardware itself, because it has the same behavior when I used to use the TD-10 for HiHat sounds).

    Tony Enamel
    Participant

    I’m using the FD8 foot controler. It seems pretty good, although, i’ve only had the kit for 2 weeks and there is still plenty of tweeking to be done. The hi hat has so many subpad options and I don’t know what they are all for. For example, what are the Seq hit options for?

    John
    Moderator

    Great video Tony,

    the Seq hits are hits picked from actual played sequences, soft and hard. When playing e-drums, you only use the HatsTrig, HatsTipTrig and HatsBellTrig (depending on Superior product and equipment used to trigger) to trigger and then the HatsCtrl to control the openess.

    BR,
    John

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    Tony Enamel
    Participant

    I tried using only the controls you mentioned and had not control of the hats. it played closed notes no matter where my pedal was and produced no foot chick sound. I found I have to map the notes to closed and open and the pedal slots in DFH to make it work. Does this make sense?

    Rogue
    Moderator

    this would indicate that the Alesis does not support continuous controller messages, which would be typical of alesis TMC devises… but, if I must be honest, exceedingly disappointing for a product hitting the shelves in 2007.

    Anyway keep up the good work, the video was very inspiring, even for us who need no convincing.

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    Rogue
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    btw, are you sure you are mapping your triggers (snare specifically) to the ‘right’ articulation. I could not help but notice some machine gunning unusual at the drumming rates of some of your rolls.

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    Joe
    Participant

    ORIGINAL: Rogue

    this would indicate that the Alesis does not support continuous controller messages, which would be typical of alesis TMC devises

    Everything I’ve read and heard so far (product manual, other demos and user comments) does indicate that a continuous controller is supported for variable HiHat pedal response.  But that the variable response is selectable as a config choice, it will also do On/Off.  I’ll know more soon, my Trigger iO is now on its way to me.

    Tony Enamel
    Participant

    this would indicate that the Alesis does not support continuous controller messages, which would be typical of alesis TMC devises

    It does send MIDI CC data (CC4). I can see it in Cubase when I record. Any thoughts?

    btw, are you sure you are mapping your triggers (snare specifically) to the ‘right’ articulation. I could not help but notice some machine gunning unusual at the drumming rates of some of your rolls.

    Yeah, I’ve done some tweeking since the video and I have a much more natural, smooth response now. Perhaps, when the schedual permits, I’ll shoot another vid of the current state of my setup.

    Rogue
    Moderator

    It does send MIDI CC data (CC4). I can see it in Cubase when I record. Any thoughts?

    you may have cleared the assignments of the HatsCtrl subpad? without seeing your .dfh or Cubase project it is hard to imagine any other cause.

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    Tony Enamel
    Participant

    Rogue,
    Can I send you my .dfh and Cubase project? Maybe you can see where I’m going wrong.

    Jacob
    Participant

    Tony, nice work. I just got DFHS in today and am working on setting it up with my trigger IO, any chance you can post your .dfh’s as they’re refined? I can set you up with an FTP if need be.

    Rogue
    Moderator

    ORIGINAL: Tony Enamel

    Rogue,
    Can I send you my .dfh and Cubase project? Maybe you can see where I’m going wrong.

    yes of course, use the support Toontrack address and it will get to me.

    Rogue Marechal - Toontrack
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    Tony Enamel
    Participant

    Maybe I’m blind but, where do I find the support e-mail address?

    Rogue
    Moderator

    supporttoontrack•com , replace as appropriate.

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